Israil Modrahimovich "The Dream" Madrimov

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  1. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    :lol: He's got some talent. He's more flat footed, and not as defensive as the two fighters you mentioned. If boxers are exceptionally gifted defensively, that is one thing, but if they are bangers who are more flat footed, putting them in tough and in 10 rounders early, seems like it could shorten their career. Hey, maybe I'm just not used to top prospects being matched in a challenging manner early. I'm looking forward to seeing him progress.

    The guy is 10 and 3. He's a journeyman/bum.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That is fallacious logic that leaves no room for extenuating contextual factors.

    His previous two losses were by MD and 117-111/115-112/115-112, each in the other guy's actual hometown. He is also 2-0 against Danny Valdivia, who is a prospect Golden Boy was fairly high on, and who previously was an undefeated 14-0 NABF champ when Vlad popped his cherry (before double-stamping his supremacy in the rematch) and since has fought on The Contender (eliminated by Shane Mosley Jr. in the quarterfinals)
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :thinking: Are you being contrarian just for kicks, here, I wonder? :lol:

    I've seen you get every bit as excited as the rest of us are over Madrimov about debut performances that were less scintillating. As to proclaiming his future accolades, putting the cart before the horse so to speak...well that is part of the fun in this sport, no? That some things might not go according to plan? I for one am not afraid of getting it wrong. Could he falter before reaching those heights? Sure. Could he mysteriously walk away from the sport (like a Zeljko Mavrovic or Alexande Frenkel) or be forced out due to injury (like a Dmitry Pirog) before he was able to answer the burning questions? Of course. But weighed against the depth of the water he jumped into, and the manner in which he took right to it like a confident big fish, getting optimistically amped feels like a natural and inevitable result. The strangest thing here is that only does he confirm stylistically to my tastes and @CST80 's but (at least what I've gathered of, after years on here) yours as well. Not sure then why the reticence to un-clutch the "but what if we get it wrong" pearls and just swing your hat over your head like a regular hot dog at the rodeo and give a yeeeeeee-haw for a possible late-entry Most Electrifying Prospect of 2018?
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Madrimov vs. Hernández, sans all the BoxNation technical issue bumbling:

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  5. wifly

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    He is really good, he could be the next big thing in boxing, the movements, the angles, the hand speed, the power, it was like watching Canelo, Loma and GGG all together
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Is he signed to Duva? She better keep him ACTIVE, or I'm gonna spank her raw and forget the safe-word. :sisi1
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    BoxRec lists him as being under Ryabinsky's banner (World of Boxing Rus) but most of those guys, at least the ones that strike out West to grab some American dollars, also have a secondary promoter stateside. Was the debut on a Main Events card a one-shot deal or were they wise enough to lock him down, I wonder?
     
  8. Drew101

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    Not a fan of rodeos. No yee-haaws here. :D

    Vladamir is a solid journeyman, but the fact that he doesn't do anything particularly well nor has any outstanding attribute save for an abundance of toughness and grit means that he was made to order for someone of Madrimov's pedigree (and obvious talent). In essence, he was a quality plate upon which to display the ingredients that IM possesses...But nothing more than that.

    Madrimov does certainly a number of those ingredients, but on the basis of what was displayed against Hernandez, requires seasoning and additional preparation before being considered a five course meal that can be force fed to any established contender or reigning champion. He let himself be tagged unnecessarily, let Hernandez off the hook several times and seemed at points to admire his work a bit too much. Those are issues that need to be worked upon....Otherwise, dinner might wind up being ruined when he faces a higher caliber opponent.

    So, I'll wait a bit to see how Madrimov turns out. If he's prepared properly, rest assured it will be a dish I'm certain to enjoy.
     
  9. wifly

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    Madrimov fighting on Bivol-Smith undercard :bananaride
     
  10. hungover

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    Against the perfect opponent too. He has a nice 24-2 record, will look good on his Boxrec for just his second fight, but Frank Rojas is terrible
     
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  11. wifly

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    That's a damn padded record
     
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  12. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He looks like a very promising prospect.


     
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  13. CST80

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    For what its worth regarding Frank Rojas, ignore the near criminal scorecards in his loss against Hammond, it was anything but.... James and I are rarely in agreement, but even he scored it in favor of Rojas.

     
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    Guessing Eddie believes the hype
     
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    Many, many folks who attended the Saturday fights at Turning Stone Casino in Verona, NY, for a card topped by a Dmitriy Bivol light heavyweight title defense against Joe Smith came away mightily impressed by a low on the card prospect.

    Israil Madrimov entered 1-0, but left with another W, and a load of new admirers.

    I reached out to the hitter, who hails from Uzbekistan, to get a sense of who he is, where he comes from, and where he’s going.

    First off, I wanted to get a sense of his demeanor…so I asked, do YOU think you won the weekend, of all the fighters?

    “I don’t think so because Dmitry Bivol, my teammate was in a very important fight and defended his world title,’ said the 24 year old, who campaigns netween welterweight and junior middleweight. He debuted as a pro in November, winning a TKO6 against 10-2 Vladimir Hernandez in Atlantic City.

    On Saturday, Madrimov, with ample power in each hand, bested Frank Rojas (24-3, 23 knockouts), a Venezuelan power puncher. The power was most evidenced by the Uzbek, who flurried and dropped Rojas, and then picked up where he left off to drop him hard to the mat. Game over, 1:56 of round two. He dropped him lefty and finished him off righty, for the record.





    “I was very comfortable in the ring using footwork and distance,” Madrimov told me. “Not trying to be cocky but I knew I could knock him out in the second round either with a hook to the head or a body shot. I used the first round to get warmed up.”

    The prospect took up fighting at 11 years old, when he went to a gym near his hometown of Khiva, Uzbekistan. “Once I started boxing I felt great and within two years I was a national champion. My goal is to become a world champion, hopefully that will happen within the next year.”

    I recommend you get this guy on your watch list; he’s gunning for top names, sooner rather than later…

    “I want to fight any of the champions at 154, Jaime Munguia, Jarrett Hurd or Tony Harrison,” Madrimov declared. “I’m ready for them right now.”


    On Friday, March 15, I chatted with Madrimov’s trainer, Joel Diaz, and his stated level of certainty about how good this kid is, well, it got me charged up to follow up.

    I told Diaz that Madrimov seems ultra confident, that he could handle some of the champs at 154, right now. What does Diaz think of that assertion?

    “I can tell you one thing…put Madrimov in with Jaime Munguia, and Munguia will not last six rounds,” said Diaz. “Right now!”

    With over 475 amateur fights tucked into his belt, Diaz (below) says this kid has plenty enough seasoning to grab straps ASAP.



    More Diaz: “He’s very awkward, he’s tricky from every angle, and it’s every punch thrown with bad intentions. Don’t blink on this kid. Madrimov is the next superstar in the sport, I guarantee.”