It is funny how the hating is being set up like a straight right behind a good jab...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by gatorbama, Jan 21, 2010.


  1. gatorbama

    gatorbama Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I understand/agree with what you posted but what does that have to do with people identifying mosley as past his prime now(i am not saying that he isnt) but i am saying that i didnt start hearing these talks until word came that he may be fighting pbf. I know then that if pbf beats him they arent gonna give him credit cause they are going to say he is shot...I know when and if pac beats him they will not be saying the same thing...
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    All this site needed was another insecure kid crying about double standards and things that haven't happened yet.
     
  3. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    Margarito is a very effective aggressor who throws a high volume of punches and has a very good chin...Margarito is very good at cutting off the ring...give me one example that shows Margarito not being able to cut of the ring effectively...hence, the primary reason for never considering a fight with Margarito.

    Also, Pac matches speed with Floyd and throws a much higher punch volume with PBF. He has advantages over Floyd with speed, power, and aggression. Pac doesn't have to fight backing up; he is very proficient at turning his opponents now, as he displayed in his last three fights.

    Floyd will never fight Margo, Cotto, or Pac.

    If Pac is easy work for Floyd, why not make a huge money fight against a smaller man. If Pac is doing drugs, Floyd should be kissing that drug dealer's ass for pumping the small man up.

    It's complete bull****!
     
  4. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    Crap wins, yet they're the same victories that Floyd fans hang their hats on. Floyd's biggest names on his resume are two of the same fighters you criticize...can't have it both ways, dude.
     
  5. gatorbama

    gatorbama Well-Known Member Full Member

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    True but listen, This is the fight that people wanted to see. When the pac/pbf crumble and mosley was locked in with berto, there were a lot of post saying who floyd should fight and mosley was on it... now that floyd may fight mosley, its not good enough for people anymore... ssm is past his prime, Easy UD for May...(your post), etc... it dont matter... this is one of the opponents that people wanted to see him against when he was locked in with berto (which means they knew it wasnt gonna happen) and now that the availability is there, its not good enough.
     
  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So why is "style matchup" even a question for a Mayweather/Mosley matchup? So you shouldn't have even brought it up in a context of diminishing EITHER man.

    "If" he had chosen to? "If"? This is the same BS you haters/sheep always pull. The "matchups" you want are always a moving target. First you say FMJ is ducking. Then FMJ makes the fight and the opponent is shot or it is a bad style matchup. Which one is it? He has ALWAYS made the fights the media called for. You just have selective memory and believe anything Daddy Arum tells you. I will attach some of "media's calling".

    He is still favored in every fight. Your silly understanding makes no sense because it is NONSENSE! Arum doesn't want to do business with Mayweather. Mayweather will embarrass any of those Top Rank(TR) clowns. They just don't want to fight! Notice how Pac(TR) is fighting Clottey(TR) and may even face Marg-a-cheat-o(TR)! He also fought Cotto(TR)You notice a theme here? Daddy Arum is pimping all of those fools and YOU. Selling it by saying Mayweather is ducking. You don't have enough reasoning capability to see the obvious.

    Remember how these fights ended? What did the media want? What happened?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kXwJo7DWPA&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
     
  7. gatorbama

    gatorbama Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are absolutely right. Mosley is past his prime.

    PBf beats a past prime mosley=No credit
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    Pac beats a past prime mosley AFTER mayweather=pac moves up on ATG list with everyone highlighting how dangerous mosley is
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Um no. They are COMPLETELY different. Why? FMJ did it first AND when they were at their best.

    Hatton - Original training team. I also thought he had no skills so I don't think this was all that impressive. Collazo schooled him first. But this is a prime example of the media building up a fool to get his ass torn up.

    DLH - He fought DLH at 154. He only came in at 150. DLH was well fed and ready to go. He didn't have his trainer, but he had Roach.

    So I don't hang my hat on anything. I just analyze that a fight can be influenced by factors OUTSIDE the actual ring.
     
  9. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosley is past his prime but no way is he washed up. A year ago he took Margartio apart, that shows Mosley is still an elite fighter. Actually, a win over this version of Mosley would rate as one of if not the best win of Mayweather's career. This is a fight between two of the best fighters in the game, no complaints here, I'll just feel a little better when I see the fight is a done deal.
     
  10. gatorbama

    gatorbama Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Since you cant seem to understand the point of the thread...we will try to make it easier for you... change the word(in your mind)everyone to people...I didnt think it would be hard for SOME PEOPLE, not EVERYONE, to get the point.
     
  11. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree. Mosley is not the Mosley of old, but he is no chump. He is doing big things at WW.

    Yeah I want to see the contracts signed, a press conference, and dates for a 24/7. Until then it is just speculation.
     
  12. link2296

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    I understand what you're saying...unfortunately, because the consensus demands the Pac fight, all others fail in comparison. Unfortunately for Floyd and his fans, this seems to be a common trend...hence the criticism.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Margo is good when he faces people who are there to be hit but with someone who won't be there he will lose and is easily beaten. You mention his workrate but his workrate and connect % would drop by half against PBF. Just like all of PBF's other opponents have.:deal Margo is simply too slow and plodding to beat PBF. He can't stay with him and PBF would have him turning all over the place hitting him at will forcing him to reset over and over. It would be a shut out and Margo would look bad against PBF. Margo didn't cut off the ing against Cotto he only got to him because of the damage from his loaded gloves and the fact that Cotto was tired. He followed Cotto around not cutting the ring off.:deal

    Pac can't handle counter-punchers he went life and death with JMM for crying out loud. Now PBF is a better counter-puncher than JMM and he has more handspeed a better athlete, is a defensive master and a ring genius who can adjust to all styles. Pac has never been in the ring with a slick defensive counter-pucnher before nor has he been in the ring with someone who's as good of an athlete as he is and would have been lost as to how to attack PBF who had longer reach and who could get off first. It would have been a boxing lesson of the highest order and it's easy to see. I've said this from day one you won't beat an elite defensive counter-pucnher like PBF without a jab and Pac lacks that.:deal
     
  14. Abdullah

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    I actually give Mayweather a lot of credit for fighting a past his prime Mosley. I will continue to give him credit if he fights the top welterweights out there. Mosley is a great start. Mosley is far from shot, at least that was the case one year ago. Fighting Mosley won't be a walk in the park for Mayweather or anyone else.

    Mayweather is so good at being the villian, he has actually made me not like him. I am a big fan of his talent, but his whole "Money Mayweather" act is pretty stupid and if it isn't an act then that makes me dislike him even more. I hope Mosley wins, but I think Mayweather will prevail by a decision. I respect Floyd for standing by his position on the random drug tests. If Mayweather and Pacquiao get by their next opponents, I hope a fight between them gets made. Mayweather and Mosley are setting an example by doing the random drug tests for their fight. If Mayweather-Pacquiao does come about, I hope they too set an example. I don't expect that they will since Pacquiao has issues with "random" tests. What a shame that is, especially since Manny is clean.....right Manny?
     
  15. gatorbama

    gatorbama Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its happening already ...If you dont like it dont post...If i see a thread i think is stupid....I dont post/respond to it....its that simple....kid