It is likely Calzaghe can stop Hopkins in 4 rounds, somewhat easily...

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  1. MetroMan

    MetroMan With the good people Full Member

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    Calzaghe won't be stopping Hopkins. Hopkins can't let that happen after all the stuff he's said! :lol:
     
  2. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly. BHop's got an iron chin - he's never been remotely close to being stopped. If Roy Jones Jr, Glen Johnson, Felix Trinidad and Antonio Tarver failed to even deck or seriously hurt BHop...........I doubt that Calzaghe will stop him. Unless Bhop has depreciated markedly and Calzaghe is a beast at light heavyweight............even then, it will be a late stoppage IMHO.
     
  3. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nice analogy :thumbsup BHop is more likely to fill the role of the matador in this fight. But Calzaghe will hopefully be far more than 'a bull in a china Hand Joe shop'. The matador is getting battered in this fight, but he'll go out on his shield.
     
  4. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't speak too soon. With Calzaghe's increased power at light heavyweight he's at increased risk of damaging them again.

    That is BHops only chance IMHO.
     
  5. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah but Echols was hardly a world beater. Calzaghe - Echols would probably have panned out like Calzaghe - Byron Mitchell.
     
  6. Stickandmove

    Stickandmove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So, if Calzaghe lands 500 'slaps' and BHop manages 50 clean, hard shots in the fight..........................we could conceivably see BHop win on points.
     
  7. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually Kid Dynamite Echols was 22-2-1, 22 KOs and dropped Hopkins with one of those monster shots while the ref was holding Bernard's arms down on the break and in the 1st round, 10th defense of the IBF title. Actually that was the famous fight Hopkins landed 27 of 28 ( round 7 - 96% connect rate) and scholled him right till the 9th when he wobbled him with a left... Echols was so tired and discouraged at the end of the 11th that his trainer had to convince him to go on.

    Echols was 24-3-1, 23 KOs and was USBA, NABF MW Champ and on HBO B.A.D. for the rematch... Hopkins really did a job on that Iowa kid by punching him "by accident" on the back of the head in round 2 and Tony Weeks didn't take a point away. As a result, Echols lost it completely and picked him up and slammed him in the fifth ( lost two points but should have been disqualified as Bernard's right arm/shoulder could have been damaged). In the seventh, Hops would catch him with a big counter left hook and make him go across the ring and through the ropes...The fight would be stopped in the 10th.

    Of course, Echols was twice the man Calzaghe is and punched hard for real... After all, Antwun stopped Sheika in three, didn't he?... Calzaghe has a ghost of a chance to hurt Bernard.
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Sure...117-111 to Bhops!:D
     
  9. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Cant really count that shot as DROPPING Hopkins tho. He was unable to defend himself, the ref was HOLDING his arms down and it was during a break and ruled no KD. But both fights, tho dirty as hell, were tremendous to watch.

    BTW tho, it was Brewer that he stopped in 3 not Sheika.

    But come on...Calzaghe is 30x the fighter Echols is...but not nearly the puncher (tho not many were in Antwun's prime).
     
  10. Mrboogie23

    Mrboogie23 what the?? Full Member

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    granted Echols hit much harder then Joe but Echols isnt close to the calibre of fighter that Joe is either.

    I dont think Joe will stop him but I can see him winning a convincing decision.
     
  11. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Correct, it was Brewer and not Sheika... Actually Echols was down 3 times in round 2 but stops Brewer and that was right after the second loss to Hops. I don't know about the correct term but Nard went down and landed on the seat of his shorts and was on the move from that point on. I liked the 4th round of the second Allen fight better - two low blows on the blind side of Rudy Battle and a punch on the bell and Allen three times down - Bernard really makes me laugh...

    Yes, Calzaghe is much better than Echols was and I never said otherwise... But Echols was a big puncher just like Lacy was so I really can't understand about the TKO in 4... They can't really believe in what they're sayin... Calzaghe was a good puncher when he came with everything against Manners and Delaney back in 95 and 96 but he was just a kid and had his hair dyed blond. No, Calzaghe doesn't have all that much in his punches... Just that he really throws those side punches very, very fast.
     
  12. Mitchell was a home town stoppage?

    You're new here and I should give you the benefit of the doubt but.......Have you even see the entire fight!?!?!?! Thought not! :-(
     
  13. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Be serious.
     
  14. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Rereading it, I think he meant in terms of power...:good
     
  15. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I counted 40 punches without return and Mitchell unsteady on his legs, losing his footing at the end, not to mention that he had nothing to say against it afterwards... It wasn't a home town stoppage but it was a tremendous comeback and proved his fighting heart whithout a shadow of a doubt.