It is too obvious for us to deny anymore...

Exactly. There is no doubt that the best pride fighters who may have been taking performance enhancers were ALSO training and working extremely hard, hell, they had to be because if they weren't the guy they were fighting WAS and would beat them.

That's no excuse for those that take performance enhancing drugs though.

 

Very Simply...

Pride did not test for steroids. Since steroids give a huge advantage, it's logical to assume that top fighters were taking them. They would be stupid not to.

Since the UFC's testing is more rigorous, it makes sense that part of the dropoff is due to steroid prohibition.

 

Makes me wonder... Fedor being as chubby as he is... equipose anyone? Sigh, I pray that he comes to UFC and shows that he is a true champion and not drugged up. I really do believe that if Fedor cleans UFC and retires it will be good for all of MMA. They'll have someone to look up to, some goal to reach and maybe one day beat. Right now its just so messy and inconsistent. Fedor is the most consistent thing today, I just hope he stays it.

 

Equipose wouldnt make you soft. Its used for muscle hardness so i highly doubt Fedor would be on this. He doesnt have the physique, the hardness, nor the vascularity that equipose promotes.Plus his a relatively small heavy like CC at 220 and his weight generally doesnt fluctuate.

 

fedor must be CLEAN and win impressively, for the sake of the universe!

 

Agreed, I would honestly be shocked if Fedor was on anything. From my experience a tell tale sign of steroid use is a lot of vascularity, particularly around the shoulders you can see a lot veins protruding through the skin. With heavyweights this isn't always true, as Barnett and Syliva showed.

 

To be honest that really depends on what there taking. Some guys arent vascular at all by nature.But if you`ve had a good pump in the gym then you get the veiny effect that most guys get. Although you can roughly gauge from musculature if someone is on gear, this isnt always strictly true as guys like Barnett Sylvia are not body beautiful but could have been using them for recovery.

 

Fedor is definitely not on drugs..Hes basically chubby. no definition whatsoever...He has great leverage thats his gimmick

Im around folk who are on the cycle and fat but they get a little bulky and thick even not defined per say ..Fedor just dont look it

 

This may be true. But there is no way to look at someone and assume there not on gear. James Toney was on nandrolone and he looked like a sack of shite.

 

Yeah but Fedor was this size since birth.. look at his old sambo videos..hes the same...hes just a husky guy... Toney was alot skinnier even 5 years ago.. Its not an overnight change

 

Very true. But then again Toney was 200lbs in college. How on earth he got his body down to 160 il never ever know.Its no wonder his body is fighting back now and he cant control his weight.

 

But weight cutting has been the American way. I mean look at pride fighter compared to UFCs..They are just way smaller...Forrest was a giant against Shogun. Tito is huge at 205. All these guys in Pride were small. Wandy is small. Saku is small and they fight heavyweights. In the UFC GSP can be 185 easy. Matt Hughes is huge, Id say Sakus size just shorter but you dont have him fighting Wand right. I mean you have Saku at 185 and a bit soft.

 

Does this mean Fedor was rolling through steroided up freaks?

 

Are you saying Steroids dont give you cardio cause if you said that.. you dont know what your talking about.

 

Agree:good actually this is one of its benefits..Just look at Sherks training