It' s hard to rate Wilder when it comes to ATG rankings but I think he is at least A-level.

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  1. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've been watching a lot of boxing lately. I'm talking Mercer vs Morrison, Holyfield vs Tyson, Tyson vs Ruddock, Bowe vs Holyfield, and Lewis vs Mercer. Although these guys were great they were far from unbeatable. People make it seem like there is a huge disparity between Wilder and Tyson but I just don't see it. Tyson, although the more skilled fighter, never really fought someone as dangerous as athletic and powerful as Wilder. Holyfield would be too small for this era and Mercer and Tua were at best on the same level as Brezeale and Ortiz. Why do people constantly make it see like past HW are head and shoulders above todays HWs/
     
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  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    They think it makes them a more hardcore boxing fan if they slurp over past fighters.

    Extra brownie points if they were fighting in black and white.
     
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  3. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    God the you'd reckon Wilder beat AJ the was his bois are going on..

    The reality is if Tyson Fury had a bit of power Wilder would have been twitching on the canvas in the 2nd round. That just shows you the gulf between the Elite and Wilder...

    Fighting 40 odd bums doesn't make you an ATG...
     
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  4. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BUT WOULD YOU REALLY FAVOR TUA AND MERCER AGAINST WILDER WHEN THEY WERE VASTLY INFERIOR?
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    They really weren't

    And yes I'd favour both over Wilder
     
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  6. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You don't watch Boxing
     
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  7. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For ATG Wilder needs to fight AJ/Whyte & best H/Ws,Fury & AJ need these fights as well to be ATG.
    For now AJ faced the better fighters out of the three,but now has lost one fight.
    How will Wilder & Fury get on fighting the same guys AJ has no-one asked this.
     
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  8. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think both Wider and Fury would beat Ruiz.
     
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  9. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But would thay beat AJ/Whyte & the other top HWs you see what I'm saying.
     
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  10. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I think all 3 of them can beat each other opponents which is why the 3 of them were the standouts amongst the current heavies. Until that is, before Joshua got beat by Ruiz.
     
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  11. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Based on what? Ruiz is much better than Ortiz
     
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  12. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    He has A+ level power, rest of his game isn't so great.
     
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  13. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can you consider Wilder an ATG when he’s beaten nobody? If that’s the case, what do we rank Fury for beating him coming off the sofa after drink, drugs and that jägerbomb party at Euro 2016? Turn it in Ffs.
     
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  14. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilders best opponent by far has been Fury and he was gifted a draw in that fight. His only redeeming quality is that right hand. Its possibly the best right hand we have seen for decades and it has gotten him this far, against sub par competition. When he stepped up he was exposed pretty badly.
     
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  15. Tankatron

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    The Mercer that gave Lewis all he could handle and that put Morrison to the sword would be a hard nights work for any heavyweight that ever existed, including Wilder. Tua had a chin that could deflect a High Velocity, Armour piercing sabot round from an Abrams tank at point blank range and given the BS that Wilder talks, the likes of Tua and Mercer would be well up for cracking Wilders less than granite chin.
     
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