It would be good for the HW division if Adamek wins against Vitali

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  1. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    After Saturdays match, the mega fight that should have saved the division but turned out to be a dull affair, I was wondering what's next for the HW division? And the outlook is bleak.

    Helenius is a good prospect in my eyes and a future contender, but he is not ready yet and he knows it. We can probably forget about Povetkin, whose career got handled all wrong, and that hypejob Dimitrenko. Solis might get another shot sometime, but I feel he has to get back on track with a good win first. The same counts for Arreola. Haye is still the 3rd best HW, but he won't get another shot soon, and I don't think he wants one, nor does he deserve one...

    Fact is: the division is empty, everybody of note has either faced one of the Klitschkos already and failed, or will face them (Adamek), while legends like Holyfield or Toney are too far past it now. I don't see any credible prospects from the US on the horizon either, nor do I see good CWs willing to step up. The Klitschkos won't face each other, so the HW division will be even duller than it has been the last years. And there will be no undisputed champ.

    So we should all hope for an upset victory by Adamek over Vitali - for the sake of the HW division. Even Klitschko fans should hope for it. Because an Adamek victory would most certainly set up a HUGE unification fight with Wlad, and the winner would be the UNDISPUTED HW champion of the world - something we haven't had in a loooong time. It's Wlads chance to finally become the undisputed champ. Wlad can't be the undisputed champ as long as old Vitali is standing in his way. And if Adamek should manage to beat Wlad too, there'd surely be a rematch with one of the Klitschkos - another big fight.

    Yep, the future of the HW division lies on Adameks shoulders now - and even though he is the underdog, I can see an upset if he chooses to fight smart and has the right gameplan. Vitali is still good but he isn't getting any younger... I'll be rooting for Adamek!
     
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  3. Flurry

    Flurry Krautchamp Full Member

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    Im sorry I have to burst your bubble but Adamek will get KO ed in this one and I fear it won't be pretty.
     
  4. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    yeah but its highly unlikely, adameks didnt easily win vs grant or mcbride, I cant see him ud a past prime vitali, vitali takes this 119-109 type win or stoppage.
     
  5. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    Good thread and very true. Winning against Vitali will set up an unification fight. This is the best what may happen to HW boxing.
     
  6. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    Why is my thread a bubble? I made some valid points.
    Adamek will probably get KOed, ok, but an Adamek upset win would still be better for the HW division. So we should hope for that upset. That's what my thread is about.
     
  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    It actually would probably be good for the division, but I don't see it happening.
    I give Tomasz significantly less chance as Haye even, because he just hasn't got the pop to keep Vitali at bay. He will get KO'd.
     
  8. Flurry

    Flurry Krautchamp Full Member

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    OK I see, you re being serious here, I thought it was a troll thread by a Klitschko hater hoping for a Klitschko defeat and trying to stir some ****.

    I can see where you re coming from but dont necessarily agree for a variety of reasons
    a) Wlad is the undisputed champ for me as he holds three of the 4 major belts plus ring mag, I personally do not need to see him fight adamek to prove that. Not holding one of the multiple abc bodies' belts doesnt mean for me he's not undisputed
    b) I reckon Vitali will soon retire and his belt therewith be up for grasp anyway
    c) vitali has a certain legacy of his own - beyond the question whether wlad is / is not considered the undisputed champ and I do not want him to get beaten by a blown up lightheavy and cruiser only to make for another title unification bout
    d) Therefore I do not see how adamek beating vitali would make the HW division any better
     
  9. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    of course I'm being serious..

    a) you're the undisputed champ if you're holding all 4 major belts, and that's a fact. Even if you don't count the WBO as a major belt (it should be considered a major belt in my opinion), Wlad would still be missing the WBC belt. I know the belts don't count as much today as they used to because of all the stupid boxing politics, but Wlad only remains the unified champ. You personally viewing him as the undisputed champ does not mean anything as it's just your own personal opinion. And are you 100% convinced that Wlad is the best HW in the world today? I'm not, and so are most boxing fans, because chances are that his brother Vitali is just as good as him, or even better. And they won't face each other to clear this. As long as that's the situation, Wlad is not the undisputed champ.

    b) Maybe, maybe not. Vitali retiring would be better for his younger brother for sure.

    c) Vitali has his own legacy, but he is currently standing in his younger brothers way. Vitali is maybe the best HW in the world, or his brother, we don't know. He should either face his brother (which won't happen) or retire and leave all the spotlight to Wlad. Vitali getting beaten by Adamek would be good for Wlad and the HW division, wheter you like it or not (because you're a Vitali fan) - the reasons why I have posted above.

    d) If Vitali beats Adamek we will have at least another year of the Klitschkos having dull fights because there will only be bums left to challenge them, if any. What boxing fan but the most hardcore Klitschko fans would want to see such fights? Even most Klitschko fans are starting to get bored by now and lose interest (and I know many many Klitschko fans, I know what I'm talking about). That surely can't be good for the HW division.
     
  10. Flurry

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    :lol:, well I happen to disagree with you, on all points mentioned to be precise, it would imo NOT be better for the hw division if a blown up ex lightheavy beat Vitali, but thankfully that's not gonna happen anyway. Already prepare for having to substitute the name Adamek in your thread title with any other name that might spring to your mind who according to your opinion could become the saviour of the HW division.
     
  11. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Vitali will break him. :ko
     
  12. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    To me it seems you've run out of arguments now. Anyways, you've got to see the bigger picture and not just Vitalis career here. I'm a boxing fan first and not just a fan of single boxers.

    The real problem is that, should Vitali beat Adamek, there will simply be no names left to put in another possible thread. Because there will be no one left, at least for some time. There will be no credible contenders, no challenges... That's what my thread is about.

    So have fun watching the Klitschkos face the Derek Chisoras, Tyson Fury or Bermane Stivernes of this world during the next year...
     
  13. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    Man, this isn't just about Vitali... you've got to see the bigger picture here. I'm not even a big Adamek fan. I care about the HW division, get me?
     
  14. Flurry

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    I ve not run out of arguements but there seems little sense continuing when opinions on a matter differ widely and even elemental stuff is being defined differently, mind you, opinions after all will only be opinions and not facts. I do not see how you brought forward any facts, what you did you uttered an opinion.

    IMo your contradicting yourself. Adamek can be no more credible an opponent as say povetkin haye or maybe even Solis for the fact hes moved up several divisions. That comes to show any of the mentioned guys have a standing at least as worthy than Adamek has or better, so its not really about adamek., You only mentioned adamek cos thats Vitalis next opponent. You want Vitali to lose, don't deny that :lol: and that's what this thread is about, I was right with my very first post on here props to you, you got me to respond in length, well done mate
     
  15. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I'm convinced this is a mismatch, get me?