It would be good for the HW division if Adamek wins against Vitali

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  1. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    If Vitali beats Adamek the HW division will be in a stalemate for at least one more year, with the Klitschkos easily feasting on no-name bums like Derek Chisora or Tyson Fury. Before Vitali eventually retires or a credible contender shows up (Helenius?). That is not a healthy situation for the HW division or for the Klitschkos themselves, especially for Wlad.
    That may be only my opinion or a fact, but it's pretty much the truth.

    And I don't see how I contradicted myself? Haye and Solis were both credible challengers, but they failed and therefore they're out of the picture - for now. Povetkin would be a credible challenger but he's out of the picture for other reasons. I wrote that in my first post. The ONLY credible challenger left is Adamek.

    And it doesn't matter that Adamek moved up 2 weight divisions. Evander Holyfield, Michael Spinks and Michael Moorer did the same, weren't they credible HWs? Adamek got himself some decent wins at HW by now (Arreola)

    And yes, I want Vitali to lose, not because I would have a dislike for him, but for all the reasons that I've stated here earlier. It's in the title-thread, why the hell should I deny it???
    In fact I like both Klitschkos, but I'm not blind, and I dislike their nuthuggers on here.

    I've made a valid thread and valid points here, your opinion might differ from mine and that's fine, but I'm not accepting getting called a troll or a hater here! And by putting stupid smileys in your posts you're not exactly enhancing their credibility (of your posts).
     
  2. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe it's a mismatch, but we should still hope for an upset. For the sake of the man in your avatar too.
    Because if Adamek loses we're in for at least another year of mismatches at the HW top, and that can't be something we want?
     
  3. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would be good for the division. And I think Adamek has some chance against old Vitali, who hasn't been the same in his last fights.
     
  4. Flurry

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    Assuming Wlad keeps winning and Vitali too that sure is healthy for the both of them and neither of them will complain about it. Only you complain.

    Adamek is not the only credible challenger, you mentioned pov, then we move on to Haye, he IS NOT out of the picture, in fact he lasted the distance with wlad, Solis lost because he twisted his leg, he isn't out of the picture either. YOU want Adamek to be the only credible challenger because Adamek is Vitalis next opponent.

    As to the use of emoticons I use them sparingly but when the moment is fitting I do use them :D
     
  5. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure if I'd rather someone beat Vitali then fight Wlad or for Vitali to retire in a couple of fights time and Wlad to beat the new WBC champ but more importantly beat the new #2 to start a new lineage.
     
  6. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Yes it would be good, set up a unification with Wlad.....unlikely to happen though.....
     
  7. jakelamotta

    jakelamotta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This one isn't as black and white as Klitschko Haye.

    Vitali doesn't have the jab and defense Vlad does and he is also slower than Wlad. Adamek has proven he can outbox bigger guys at heavyweight (Arreola, McBride, Grant).

    Adamek has the two following things going for him:

    1.) Home Turf Advantage
    2.) An aging Vitali

    If Adamek wins this one its going to be purely from outboxing Vitali- no KO win here. And FYI this is not an official prediction.
     
  8. Bo Bo Olson

    Bo Bo Olson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A major upset would be Adamek taking two rounds from Vitali....The man has lost very few rounds to any one in his career.
    I don't see Adamek taking three...but for the sake of the fight would wish it.

    Yes and it is the best fight out there for Vitili.
    Adamek is a good scrapper and can go in and out on Heavies.

    The man fought for peanuts at Lt. Heavy and at Cruiser he deserves a good payday. It will lead to another good payday fight with some good contender.
    He will be too old for the Changing of the Guard.....timing is everything in life.

    I expect a KO, because I think the man's pride will not let him go into survival mode.
     
  9. pat19

    pat19 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good post Fat Toney. I think this fight really does matter. I hope Adamek can pull it off in the year of upsets and spark the HW division! Then a Wlad revenge would be a great fight! I am an Adamek fan but I do agree that Adamek is gonna have to somehow greatly improve during this training camp or have a perfect fight plan!
     
  10. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's very true that the HW division is in a dead end now.

    But you can't blame the Klits for it. They're professionnal boxers who are just doing their thing, you can not expect them to lose just so as to make the division more exciting.

    But yeah, an upset like an Adamek win over Vitali would breathe some fresh air into this stale division, and that is badly needed.
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

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    hell no. anybody who wants vitali to go, doesnt like boxing. vitali is good for this sport. he makes great fights because of his size and chin
     
  12. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's been a while since last I saw a great fight involving Vitali.
     
  13. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Adamek's chances are extremely slim. His only hope is to outbox Vitali and keep from getting banged up. He CAN do it, but I don't think Vitali has slipped enough yet to allow it. Adamek just doesn't have the power to trouble him.

    If Adamek wins it'll be an extremely boring fight, trust that. But it would set up Adamek vs. Haye, which would be absolutely great. That would be more of a cruiserweight fight though, since both guys are still within cutting range of 200.

    So it wouldn't do much for the heavyweight division, but it'd be a hell of a thing for boxing. (I hope Adamek and Haye fight each other even if Adamek loses.)
     
  14. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    I am convinced that, should Adamek upset Vitali, it would almost certainly set up a unification fight with Wlad.
     
  15. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    that's the problem - but it's not Vitalis fault. I just think that his last opponents weren't up to par to provide great fights. There are no good challengers around who can make for a good fight. But hopefully Adamek can do it.
    Vitalis last 4-5 fights were dull fights and even most casual Klitschko fans are getting bored by now. Most Klitschko fans are casual fans, not hardcore fans - as is and always was the case with most popular boxers.