It would be great if Usyk loses.

Usyk has fought once a year since becoming a heavyweight, years before he had any belts or any dealings with Fury.

People need to stop blaming Fury for every problem in the division. Only one heavyweight can fight Fury at a time. Fury isn't putting up any roadbloacks preventing the other "thousand" or so from fighting each other.

 

There shouldn't be a rematch clause, since it's a mandatory.

 

The fight for undisputed is the fight and Fury absolutely gets the blame for this fight not happening. Who cares really about Fury v the rest of the HW division.

What are you talking about lol. Fury is the reason why Usyk hasn't fought since Joshua. There's been plenty of HW fights with other fighters since then.

 

There are pros and cons.

But I was thinking the other day how nice it would be for the division to have a 25-year-old heavyweight champion. That used to be the norm (heavyweight champs in their 20s).

If Dubois wins, that means he is better than most of us thought. And his next fight could be made quickly, a mandatory defense against Hrgovic.

Stylewise, that would be an interesting clash. Neither guy is a big "clincher" - which spoiled a number of fights last weekend. The winner of that has a mandatory with the Zhang-Joyce 2 victor next.

Depending on the outcome of those, Dubois-Joyce 2 or Hrgovic-Zhang 2 sounds good, too.

It's been so long since all these mandatory fights have happened that it would be nice to see someone just bowl through them. At least the mandatories are interesting.

There is about to be a big changeover in the division considering the age of the top guys anyway. If it begins in a week or so, that's fine.

I don't expect an upset and I hate decisions in heavyweight fights (knockouts are always preferred) but, if Dubois scores an upset stoppage win, bring on the next wave of heavyweights. I'm ready.

I think we're all "talked out" when it comes to the current top guys, and why so-and-so didn't fight so-and-so.

The top four are all now just looking for one fight here or there and feel they don't have much else to prove.

 

Usyk beat Joshua two years ago (his lone fight that year). He hasn't been negotiating with Fury for two years. And he only fought once a year at heavyweight before the Joshua fight.

Usyk (and his fans) can't blame his inactivity for the last five years on Fury. They just sat down and started negotiating in the Spring this year.

 

The second fight was 20th August 2022. There was also a war going on. Before all that covid was a problem with fights being made.

 

Honestly, I'm so sick of talking about why people "didn't" fight.

I come here to talk about FIGHTS. Not fights that never happened and why they never happened (which seems to be mainly what we've talked about the last few years).

Usyk has known he has three mandatories since he beat Joshua two years ago.

Fury didn't start Covid. Fury didn't start the War in Ukraine. Fury didn't make Usyk fight once in 2019 against Chazz and once in 2020 against Chisora. Fury didn't force Usyk (a mandatory challenger) to sign a rematch clause with Joshua (that he didn't have to sign as a mandatory) making Usyk sit on the shelf for a year until Joshua "was ready" for their rematch.

Usyk has fought once a year since he's been a heavyweight ...and that's on him.

Which, again, is one reason why it would be nice if he lost. And it would be nice if Fury lost. And it would be nice to see a thorough housecleaning at the top.

If Dubois wins, he can go fight his mandatories. There are good matchups there.

I just want to see fights. Not talk about who's to "blame" for fights not happening. It seems this era of heavyweights is going to be remembered for the fights that "never" happened.

That's too bad.

But, if you follow the sport (and heavyweights in particular) for any length of time, you know there's always a new group ready to come in and replace the old group.

Maybe the next group will be more inclined to fight each other (and maybe they've already begun).

 

The best would be to see Fury get clipped and go away forever . I’d also like to see usyk school hrgovic , maybe that would make hrgovic get in shape, work harder and become better boxer so he can actually win the belt when Usyk retires.

 

didn’t read but I know wilder is the best and fury is the greatest .

 

fury fans would sacrifice their family member to see usyk and AJ lose .

 

They can and they do - COVID, the war, supposedly Fury... Not that any of this stopped Usyk from fighting two bums and AJ... For a man with 4 titles, he is definitely not willing to do the necessary amount of defenses. But as it seems, the grace period is over for him.

P.S.: Easy to check the top 10 fighters' activity during COVID and realize it is an excuse only for Usyk's fans.

 

They'd scrub their asses with hedgehogs in that secret gypsy ritual that I just made up but is totally efficacious at ensuring The Great One's victory.

 

have you thought that if dubois beat usyk he maybe isnt mediocre bud just a thought

 

You stated you don't want to talk about fights that dodnt

Why do you keep saying 2 yrs lol. The Joshua fight was less than a Yr ago and a rematch. So Usyk had to wait for that to happen ffs. Usyk fought Chisora during the covid nonsense. I can check but most boxing didn't have a chance to fight much during covid and lockdowns.

I'm not a Usyk fan but he tried to make the fight with Fury within a yr of beating Joshua in the rematch, so wouldn't that be two fights in one year.

Keep crying about Usyk if it makes you feel better but it's absolutely on Fury the reason why that fight hasn't been made.

While we are at it. How ome your boy Wilder didn't fight Povetkin, Wlad, Joshua or any of the other top ten HWs instead of the pile of crap he did fight. You had no problem with him not fighting the big fights. Picking and choosing when you have a problem lol.

 

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Now you want to rehash why Wilder and Povetkin didn't fight SEVEN years ago? It's all been talked to death with that group.

I don't care anymore.

Bring on the new champs.