It's a myth that Spinks was scared

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  1. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The wind from Tyson's punching were powerful that day.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    This and Wilder vs. Scott were weired equilibrium shots that were real. It was so bad for each of them because neither had settled into the fight yet.
     
  3. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not saying Seldon took a dive, I think fear took over, and I seen views of the ko punch were Tyson outright miss. You can see the shot miss on the overview of the video. Seldon did get hit with other shots, its just the "Ko" punch was the shot that miss.
     
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    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I think he was pretty much gone after the first shot. He felt clear in his head, but couldn't control his legs and freaked out instead of handling it like a vet.
     
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  6. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was classic scared shitless. Right there with Liston-Patterson.
     
  7. RockyValdez

    RockyValdez Active Member Full Member

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    The punch did not miss. You can clearly see it hit the top of his head and slide up and off. I think the punch was better than most but Seldon probably could have got up.

    Stay safe buddy, chat soon.
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Spinks was unlucky to be up against a prime Tyson. Let's say Spinks was 3 years younger and moved up to heavyweight in 1990-91 when Holyfield was the champion. So let's say Spinks beats, I don't know, Alex Stewart or a Bert Cooper. And everyone is demanding a Spinks/Holyfield clash. The fight is made for sometime in 1991.

    I still think Spinks would lose, likely by late round stoppage or UD. But he'd look a lot more competitive and ironically, the win would look better on Holyfield's resume than Tyson’s. Because of how easily Tyson dispatched Spinks, lots of people dismiss the victory as a victory against a "blown up light heavyweight". If Tyson had stopped Spinks late or won a UD after a competitive fight, it ironically would have made the victory look better in certain ways.
     
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  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    To add to the analogy train, if you’re armed with a Ninja Star and the other guy has an AR-15 there is only so much planning to get your chance above 5% lol, it’s possible but a long shot lol like you said the physicality of Spinks limited him this time, Tyson wasn’t like Holmes, Holmes even tried to “monster” Spinks into submission in the opening of fight 2, Tyson was a freak of nature and Spinks was already short of being a “true” HW and whilst I believe Louis on his best night is better then every HW today (H2H) a career of grinding out 250-270lbs opponents with half a foot or more of height on him would take its toll and he’d probably lose to someone surprising? Paez lost to Dorsey, Paez “should’ve” beaten Dorsey but his mind couldn’t get right however “basic” Dorsey’s attack TD’s bull dog attitude and pace was too much “psychic” fatigue, I believe Jorge started to check out, I don’t think it’d improbable on a bad night “prime” or not Chisora could hustle Louis and look very good for the same reasons as the above example + 50-70lbs. I prefer to rate HW’s like the flyweights, due to the smaller pool of “unique” sized individuals there isn’t as much competition for the top guy of every era and he should be rated on his consistency and domination. Myung Yuh Woo is such an example and perhaps Wilfredo Gomez? 147-160lbs (day of weigh ins) were stacked because that’s around the size of the average in-shape man.
     
  10. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Guys.
    I am of an age that at both primary and secondary school the teachers could hand out corporal punishment, so that would consist of either your hand ( palm up ) or your backside being hit with a slim wooden cane, normally six strokes, or if you were deemed really unruly it would be twelve, so if for argument's sake you got into a fight in the morning, your class teacher would say you will report to the headmaster after school ( 4-15 ) to receive your canning, for most of the day you were going about your lessons, chatting with friends, and not thinking about what fate awaited you later in the day, but around 3-30 you found yourself glancing at the class clock quite a lot, think " High noon " at 4 you were feeling like you needed a poo, the walk to his office was undertaken in slow motion, all different thoughts flashing threw your mind, should I have borrowed a friends pants, maybe stuff extra toilet paper down your trousers, feign sickness hoping the head will have pity on you, or just run out of school, and leave home, at the moment he opens his door and beckons you inside your a quivering wreck, you can't hear nothing, you cant see nothing, you are worthless, a 3 year old could have the better of you, you are about to be punished, and there is nothing you can do about it, Spinks was stepping into that room, and there was nothing he could do about it either, and he knew it......
    stay safe guys, chat soon.
    Mike.