It's an open secret - floyd wont fight Pac, Cotto Mosley

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  1. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Guys, this is Buxner lol... Remember how many Floyd threads he posted before JMM-Floyd lol... This is Buttass with a new screen name or his alt lol...
     
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  2. wingchung

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    i c.
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    The guy is an obvious alias he isn't fooling anyone.
     
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  4. Quarteysjab

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    it's really quite obvious as floyd has ducked and dodged all three. But you see floyd as the god almighty and can't comprehend anyone beating his ass. It's sort of like how people had high hopes for Sam Peter, first vs. Wlad and then Vitali. Sam Peter was on his way up but when he got to the top, he couldn't handle the best and got destroyed.

    though floyd has more skills than Peter, he has carefully avoided the best at 147 because he is unsure if he can handle them. Cotto is a beast, unlike anything floyd has ever played around with. Floyd knows he can't hold Cotto off and can't control the fight, Cotto is too rough, too clever has too many different tricks and combinations and floyd does not want to mess with that for 12 ronds. Cotto has too much fire and hunger. He is the unknown.

    Pacquaio is another beast. Like Cotto, he has no fear of Floyd and won't come in as a second banana just happy to be there. Pac isnt just about the $ either, which fraud is. When a guy is fighting for pride and his people, he's twice as deadly. Fraud is just a businessman interested in safe, handpicked set ups. Floyd is really just a one punch at a time pot shotter. Paq and Cotto throw vicious combos. But the tell tale sign is how floyd constantly finds ways to avoid making those fights. it's obvious floyd doesn't really want to fight COtto and Pac. It's not about Arum or 50-50, only an imbecile buys that. The truth is Cotto and pacquiao are the most exciting, most fearless, most explosive, most revered fighters inthe sport, and they are in their PRIMES, all of which add up to being way too dangerous in lil floyd's eyes.

    Mosley looked devastating in his last fight - explosive, fearless, intelligent, vicious. Again, these are qualities floyd will avoid at all costs. underneath his false facade of cockiness, floyd is a bully who preys on slow, old, overmatched, smaller, faded opponents, who show him clear disadvatnages which he can exploit and control.

    But Cotto, Pac and Mosley show no clear disadvantages, only tremendous assets - combined with fearlessness, ambition, intense motivation and inspiration to please his people. Thus they have been and will continue to be ducked and dodged, with excuses such as, he's not his own man, wont do busines with Arum, his name isn't big enough, he knows he can't beat me, I beat marquez easier, I took something out of Hatton. And you dear Pimp will sit there like a moron and believe every excuse floyd ever says. You will sit through his next two faked retirements and say, Oh he'll fight them when he comes back. There's too much $ to be made.

    The time is NOW. But I know for a fact floyd will not man up. He'll handpick Salita, Hatton or Lord knows some other mismatched con job.
     
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  5. LukeO

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    Dude, no one has any doubt floyd mayweather can be beat, but to say it will be an easy task for any one of these 3 guys is stupid. Mayweather is hard to hit, he is fast, and he is slick. These guys know it would be the hardest win they could get. Pretending like floyd is a walk in the park for someone the size of pacquiao is stupid. Thinking that Cotto will punish floyd physically would be a great thought, but he'd have to apply way more pressure than he normally does. Shane could come close, but to say he is a threat to mayweather in his prime is absurd. Shane would have to earn the **** out of that win.
     
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  6. kwyjibo

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    But Mayweather has already openly stated that he would fight Cotto - he said it a long time ago, though.
     
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  7. Quarteysjab

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    Not saying they all beat floyd easy. if floyd ever mans up and gets in there with him he will fight like hell too.

    but the thing is, it's damn frustratingly obvious floyd will never fight Cotto, Pac or Mosley. he'll fake retire again if he has to. and since he won't fight them, i take that as an admission of inferiority.
     
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  8. Quarteysjab

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    He wont dare mention the name Cotto. haymon, ellerbe, shaeffer, no one ever mentions Cotto vs floyd.
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    Horrible post. You put too much emphasis on heart an pride I guess determination and pride it really helped Gatti, Hatton and JMM beat PBF didn't it? At the end of the day skills pay the bills "**** pride"! like that famous line from Pulp Fiction as Marcellous said to Bruce Willis.

    What people like you fail to understand is that defense wins championships and historically this has been the case. You take an elite agressive pressure fighter and elite defensive counter-puncher and the counter puncher wins more often than not. You can talk all about guys throwing combos on PBF but when have you seen anyone land a combo on PBF or really even attempt one? You know why because he doesn't leave himself in a postion for then to even attempt it. They won't land or throw combos on PBF. Have you nocticed that everyone's punch output and connect percentage drops against PBF? Ask anyone who fights him and they will tell you he's hard as hell to hit clean and he's smart as hell. PBF's boxing brain is his biggest assest. He can fugure you out adjust to your style and go to work.

    You lost all credibility when you siad they have no disadvanteges. I will list them since you clearly don't know what the **** you're talking about.

    Pac: short arms, no jab, can't fight on the inside, can't fight backing up, comes in wild with head down and off balanced there to be hit somewhat one-dimensional hasn't fought slick fighters struggles with counter-punchers. Manny got by for too long by being the better athlete and against PBF he'd be in for the first time with just as good of an athlete and a superior boxer in other words he's ****ed.

    Shane: Poor defense, no jab, fights flatfooted, low ring IQ, can't adjust, can't cut off a ring, old. Shane can't handle boxers look at his record against them he has no defense for the jab follows poeple around the ring and looks to load up on his shots. PBF could stay on his bike for 12 rounds and pot **** his ass to death and Shane couldn't do anything about it.

    Cotto: Poor defense, fights dumb, doesn't clinch to by time or break up opponents rhythm, retreats to the ropes when pressured, abandons body attack early in the fight, easily frustrated when things aren't going his way(fouling) shaky chin, can't handle pressure, sucker for an uppercut. Cotto of this group has the best chance based on his jab and footwork but will be simply too easy to hit for an accurate puncher like PBF who will pick him apart over the course of the fight.

    In conculsion PBF has the clear stylistic advantage over all three based on his ability to adjust to all styles, speed, jab, countering, defense, footwork, ring IQ and stamina.
     
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  10. Quarteysjab

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    decent retort, just decent. you are too biased in favor o f floyd. he is your god almighty. YOu can't imagine him being battered and busted up. floyd is beatable at 147, or sure. Yes Gatti had heart and passion but he was a C level fighter really. The above mentioned are all A+ calibre.

    Cotto does not fight stupid, he takes hits because he's fighting the BEST of the best, and there is no way to avoid it. Just like SRL couldn't avoid it vs. Duran, Hearns, etc. Floyd has continually ducked his Durans and Hearns. You will see floyd get battered and busted up when he mans up and fights the best.

    You are too ignorant about Pac and Mosley's chances. Like I said, those would be fascinating mental and physical battles, but since floyd will not man up and won't let those fights happen, that tell tale fact should be interpreted as an admission of INferiority from mayweather.
     
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  11. Pimp C

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    Wait a minute. Margo isn't the best of ****. He's a limited flawed plodding cheat who landed on Cotto like rain on a tin roof. Margo would never in a million years land those slow wide lopping shots on PBF he would see them from a mile away and counter the **** outta him and beat him to the punch all night it would be funny to watch a windmill like Margo get schooled by a master like PBF.
    You're too dismissive of PBF. You act as if the guy can't fight and he doesn't have a clue when he's in the ring. This is a guy who has never been beat, never been really hurt in the ring or never knocked down he's the truth. There's really nothing complicated about any of these fighter's approches they're not complex fighters who can switch styles or can counter and have great defense. These guys in are in over there heads and it's no wonder why PBF would be the betting favorite over all of them.:deal
     
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  12. NALLEGE

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    Guys, Buxner a.k.a Butass is saying the same old things about Floyd over and over. You won't convince him that Floyd can fight so don't bother lol...
     
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  13. Quarteysjab

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    then why wont floyd fight them? easy work right?

    Pimpnorant let me explain to you that floyd has no losses because he has smartly avoided the opponents who could have busted and battered him. and he will continue to avoid ANYONE who can give him a violent beating. It's why we will not be seeing floyd vs. mosley, cotto or pacquaio any time soon. floyd does not want to put his unbeaten record in peril.

    yes floyd can fight. he can box. he can counter. he has skills for sure. but i - and you - should want to see if floyd can do those things while fighting the best of the best, not the damn baldomirs, 36 yr old Marquezs and salitas of the world.
     
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  14. arsabs

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  15. El Borracho

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    it's a secret?
     
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