It's clear now that Haye beats Vitali

Dont know about TS is he trolling or what because he is the undisputed brit *** troll numero uno but sure positions has changed now what they were lets say few years ago. David has much better changes now to win close on points but nothing is clear when David is there. Might just be another running show from David or Vitali might quit once again.

 

No doubt Haye would land on Vitali, but the question is how much punishment could Haye take in order to get within range?

 

Great logic:good

Glad to see ESB attracting great historian posters like yourself.

And going the distance isn't barely losing.

 

Haye is a suspect chin.

 

i just saw one thing, that he lost a lot of hand speed and foot speed.

 

Haye is athletic and in good shape but he lacks testicular mass. He'll just run away like he did w/lil' bro and then laugh his way to the bank to deposit his fanboy haul. Good if you're him. Bad if you're paying to see him.

 

:huh

 

cool.

Vitali will make the fight then surely

 

Haye can land on Vitali. He has the speed, no doubt. Vitali is very faded at this point, and not even faded like he was in 08. It's went further than that. I'm still not convinced Haye should be the favourite against VK. He's going to have to show heart to win, and will have to take risks along the way. Against Wlad he seemed to believe if he lands the Hayemaker it's all over, but that isn't the case against VK. I think Vitali should retire now because fighting anybody at 41 years of age is too dangerous- but I'd still make him favourite to win against Haye. I don't think Haye has the power to stop him, the skills and punch output to outbox him, or the heart to outfight him

 

Just get the fight made, it would be class and easily the biggest fight in heavyweight boxing.

 

haye is a coward and has pulled out of fights with Vitali over the last 4 years as well as walked away from negotiations when it gets to that last step to sign the contract. he is by far the biggest mouth and biggest ***** who gets more credit and has yet to beat a top 10 heavyweight...he is the biggest bore around, his circus of "what he would do" got old 2 years ago...

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Vitali had 0 defense last night because he had 0 respect for Charr's power. His reflexes are still there.

 

losing 3 out of 4 fights makes you a top 10 HW

 

Maybe there are some other reasons, why Haye pulled out of fights and still complains (along with many other boxers) about the contracts?

A german quality newspaper (Sueddeutsche) looked at the Klitschko contracts and concluded, that those contracts contain highly unusual (and somewhat unmoral) elements, such as making the winner more or less to a bond-slave, as he would lose all his options for a couple of his further bouts to the Klitschkos. The new champ wouldn't be the organizer of his own title defenses, beside that, he would have to fight both brothers, and so on. Sounds arbitrary and patronizing, no? What's next? Fighting CHEF? Sdunek?

It's easy to blame Haye for pulling out of fights, but it's far more complicated as it seems.