It's clear now that Haye beats Vitali

Vitali's legs are gone. It's pretty much a 50-50 fight now if you ask me.

 

is he allowed to forge davids signature on the contract or will dave finally put his big boy pants on and do it himself? YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

 

He hasn't looked the same. For me what's not there is the punching power. He hasn't been famous for having a huge punch but now they don't have alot of pop behind them.

Kind of natural since we are talking about a 41 year old.
He is right for the picking.

 

are you talking about the Valuev fight from 2009? we are almost in 2013...i do remember haye being boo'd all night while throwing 9 punches a round and running for his life..... and Chisora had lost 3 of 4 fights.... potato head :-(

haye is an epic fraud

 

Vitali was missing a lot of easy shots he used to make easily, he definitely looks his age.

 

my only problem with that is sign it, youre the damn challenger that comes with the territory, go in and kick his ass being that is so easy to do, and in a year when haye is the undisputed champ, he can call the shots and his contracts will look just like those, i guarantee it...he thinks he is worth more than champions with belts for a decade as a challenger, imagine what this guy would think he is worth being a real champion? a sight to be hold

 

It's now clear that Vitali kicks Haye's ass even at this advanced age.

Haye has still beaten nobody, Haye is the same fraudulent salesman he was before the Wlad fight in which he got completely outclassed yet STILL some people fall for it.

 

Funny you should say that. For the most part ur right. Vitali does seem to throw a lot of arm punches as it appears to us.
But those short "arm" punches, knocked Solis off his feet and took every bit of equilibrium away from him soas he almost broke both his ankles trying to right himself. He was lucky to escape with a minor knee ligament damage.
Those short arm punches ripped a 1/2" deep gash over Charrs eye. While I agree with most, that Charr should have been allowed to continue for at least another rd, the cut was deep and uncontrollable. Not bad for a short arm punch.

I rememeber one guy who threw alot of slow arm punches back in the early 90s. He was considered by many a fat tub of lard, and he was thoroughly outboxed by Michael Moorer until he landed a short arm punch and sent Moorer to the canvas for the 10 count.

Vitali will KO Haye if Haye dares to fight different than he did vs Valuev and Wlad.:deal

 

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i'm saving your statement and pasting it in every Haye thread i see. Truer words have never been said. :happy

 

Yes he was.

No.

 

Valuev was officially top 10.

He also unofficially lost to Holyfield before he lost to Haye in the eyes of most spectators.

 

Haye knows it himself.
He knew if he tried to go for a knockout against Valuev early he would punch himself out and would be TKO'd, or an UD.

So he gave the most boring fight ever, he should have lost and never come back to boxing again.

 

Good post, any links to that German newspaper article?

 

Here you go: http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/klitschko-manager-bernd-boente-fuer-die-familie-1.1461770

 

i dont think its so clear

Guys like Charr and Chisora were big and sturdy heavyweights to came straight at Vitali with their arms up and engaged trying to back Vitali up

Haye doesnt do any of that, so if Vitali struggled against Chisora he struggled due to what Chisora did and Haye doesnt at all resemble Chisora

Haye would like always stay on the outside engage minimally unless he hurts you

Wlad was content to step out of range when Haye telegraphed his amateurish wind mill ****

Vitali unlike Wlad will more likely step in and counter rather than merely back out of range

Wlad fought a fight where he just wanted to take away Haye's ability to land, I think Vitali will actually make you pay

I also think people on here really underestimate Vitali's power, i mean some say he was never a real big puncher to begin with and that he arm punches

i suggest you look at what he did to Lewis in the early rounds, Sanders, Williams, Peter, Gomez, Briggs, Adamek and others and tell me he doesnt punch hard

he lacks the one shot KO power of Wlad but to say he doesnt hit hard is kind of silly