It's crazy how AJ and Wilder both blew their trajectories

I blame wilder mostly. He admitted he took Fury instead.

In reality, neither Joshua or Wilder deserved to be undisputed.

Fury vs Usyk is a more deserving fight.

 

They can still make the fight. AJ vs. Wilder would be massive and would still sell out Wembley.

 

The cream always rises to the top

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It did build up the Fury-Usyk fight though.

Their stock after beating both the 2 supposed modern top dogs multiple times so damn convincingly, rose so much that their fight seems even bigger than what Joshua - Wilder could have been.

The two awkward geniuses who don't look the part but proved themselves to be a level above beyond any doubt whatsoever. Unique.

Just the pic you posted gets me excited already.

 

Joshua lost last night ... so let's start 20th thread in the last 24 hours about how Wilder blew it.

Wilder successfully defended for the eight time against Fury in 2018 ... Joshua lost to late sub Andy Ruiz ... so there could be no unification in 2019.

Fury successfully defended against Wilder in 2021 ... Joshua lost to Usyk in 2021 and 2022, so there could be no unification with Fury.

Any time Joshua got close to unifying the belts, Joshua lost to an underdog.

Wilder had nothing to do with Joshua losing.

Joshua lost on his own.

Every time Joshua loses, you guys start Wilder-bashing threads.

Like clockwork. It's getting truly bizarre.

 

Hard not to mention boxing’s biggest fraud while talking about hw division.
Wilder ducked anybody with pulse for years and years until Fury destroyed him.
You should be happy that irrelevant bum is still being mentioned.

 

A greatly refreshing post, as numerous here seem determined to make acrimony of this bout.

 

This is an important point and often overlooked. Wilder negotiated with DAZN in spring 2019 with the understanding that both he (Brazeale) and Joshua (Miller) would win one more fight each to set up a megashowdown. But once Joshua lost to Miller's replacement Ruiz, that immediately removed some shine from the matchup.

The fight should have happened in 2018, but everyone at that point thought there was more time. Wilder beat Ortiz and Joshua beat Parker at around the same time. That was the moment to make it. But instead AJ takes on a top 5 fighter in Povetkin and Wilder faces lineal champ Fury. So it's not like either of them took a light touch. Just didn't work out.

Still would love to see it, tho. Would be a great promotion and awesome fight for as long as it lasted.

 

Nonsense. Undefeated Joshua vs undefeated Wilder would have been an old school 1990s PPV monster. No one in the U.S. will buy Fury vs Usyk, and like it or not that's still a major PPV market.

 

“Blew their trajectories.”

More like “got exposed” once they got through the Charles Martin and Breazale tier of Heavyweights.

 

Would like AJ vs Wilder as an undercard for Usyk vs Fury.

 

Was a great thing to see both racists smacked up like that . Made it look easy too for the most part.

 

"but Wilder felt like he could get a bigger bargaining chip with the "ring" title so essentially did a cherry pick gone wrong with Fury and that was that... it's crazy"

That's a funny way to rewrite history.

As I remember it Wilder successfully defended his belt against Fury in a fight where he knocked Fury down twice. Wilder's profile grew significantly from that fight. He was still undefeated at the end of 2018 to the start of 2020, whereas AJ was destroyed half way through mid-2019 by 25/1 underdog late sub Andy Ruiz. AJ then had to avenge his defeat to the pudding who made him quit while the top 2 fought for the real heavyweight championship. And before Fury and Wilder had concluded their historic trilogy, AJ had been upset again.

Had Hearn not been so concerned about A-side/B-side, 70-30 splits, one way rematch clauses and all potential fights in Britain, perhaps the fight would have been made back in 2018. But he was overconfident and didn't think AJ could lose to a stubby, morbidly obese, light punching late sub from Mexico, so they paid the price.

 

Not selling in the US doesn't make it nonsense, not even getting into where it will be watched and by how many casuals.

The better the fight sells the bigger/better it is? Now that's nonsense, on a boxing forum especially.