It's funny how some people here have built up PBF like he's the best fighter ever

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Chico has weight drained his whole career nothing new. It didn't matter what weight that fight took place at he wasn't going to beat PBF in 100 fights.
     
  2. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Honestly I think a win over Margarito on Floyds Resume would be huge!!!!!! I mean it would speak volumes of Floyd as a fighter and it would defently IMO stamp his legacy at Welter.
    Why??????

    This is the way I see it, There is no question that Margarito is highley avoided by the bigger named Welters in the mix today, Tony with his work rate solid chin conditioning and full time relentless pressure style I wouldnt want to fight him either.
    But I mean come on, Look at the man, and consider all of those facts that I just presented, DLH, Mosley, Winky, so many top notch names walked away or out right declined to fight Margarito.
    if Floyd took the fight it would be a win in itself and Floyd would get more respect for that alone than the rest of the welters would who ducked him. and if Floyd beat him, Wow, I mean if he actually went out there and beat Margarito there is no way anybody can say Floyd isnt for real.
    Look you all say Tony is sloppy he fights like an amateur etc... and Floyd will counter him all night, look in order to counter Tony, take a good look at what you have to deal with in order to get a chance to counter the man, take a look what he will be firing back if you do decided to counter him..
    to me I think Tony is the most dangerous welter weight right now on the planet, and I think a win here for Floyd if he just dominated as you all claim he would, damn nobody could say Floyd isnt the best, and he would defently be on his way to the status he wants so badly.
    I know today as I speak on behalf of Tony its meaningless, so perhaps I should have waited until sunday, but get this you will see Saturday that I was right about Margarito, no excuses.
     
  3. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    hes not as effective as far as a tko or ko goes.

    as far as getting the W... his game plan is always the best and appropriate...
    i think his defense is just as good as before..

    what it eqautes to in my mind is floyd making the proper adjustments for floyd having to be succesful at higher weights.. floyd could be the same fighter from the lower weights if he wanted to at the higher weights but it wouldnt be smart because hes in their with bigger fighters...

    keep in mind the objective of competing is winning.. no matter how you do it... floyd throughout his career has proved he is a master at this until he loses.... so regardless of the style he uses as long as hes winning its the correct decision

    EXACTLY!!

    im convinced floyd is really that much better than the competition and has made it look that much easier ..

    and dont bring up cotto-marg & pw

    think about it like this...he fights cotto instead of gatti. beats an under experienced cotto... this in turn effects cotto in the long run because he isnt the elite fighter that he is now.. so he saves cotto for later... now here comes margarito and the 8 million dollar offer where he makes 8 milli but it does nothing for his name.. because truthfully when this fight was on the verge of happening.. who did marg have on his record to boost floyds image if he wins? what belt did marg have? so instead he gets the belt to boost his image and which leads to a fight with oscar that broke an all time record and made floyd another weight class belt holder... while all this is happening floyd lets cotto clear out the division and build his name to the point where hes the #1 welterweight currently in boxing... and when the point comes where cotto is established enough.. floyd will come back out
     
  4. DINAMITA

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    Nah, not really amigo. If the extent of his desire to fight Tszyu (who I believe was top 3 P4P at the time PBF jumped to light-welter) was "can I fight him?", "Nah, he's Showtime", then that is a sad sad indictment of the guy's desire to be the best. If Cotto beats Margarito, he does become a prime name and it would be seen as a 50/50 superfight like a Leonard-Hearns or Toney-Jones Jr or DLH-Trinidad (that was a **** fight, but it was at the time a meeting of two undefeated stars putting it all on the line). Maybe I was reaching, but he never was really reaching, was he??
     
  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yo realistically who is margarito even..
    like really tho

    WHO IS HE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ask your self that question!!!!
    say it out loud and think about it!!!!
    nah like seriously think about it

    WHOS ANTONIO MARGARITO!?!?!
    like where did he come from?
    who has he beaten? (when he could have fought floyd for 8 mil)
    if floyd beat marg, 20 years from now would any body know marg for anything?
    what belts has margarito attained? (when marg could have fought floyd)
    what has he accomplised in boxing?!?!

    now im 100% clear on why floyd didnt fight margarito.. **** would have been pointless..

    the only people who know who marg is are hardcore boxing enthusiasts .. but in retrospect (20 years from now reflection on floyds career) when these enthusiasts bring up that floyd beat margo (if it happened) the people listening wouldnt give a **** because margs resume has nobody and he never had any belts until recently...

    it all makes perfect sense really
     
  6. DINAMITA

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    True. It doesn't matter if Corrales was weight-drained. It was proved beyond doubt on the night that PBF was several levels above Chico, that cannot be denied.
     
  7. walk with me

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    damn i feel bad for margarito now that i figured this whole thing out.... hes a good fighter and based on the 24 7 thing with cotto hes a good guy....

    i wish he had a better resume so people would take him more serious
     
  8. Pimp C

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    How much respect did Paul Williams get when he beat Margo? A lot of people here made excuses for Margo and said he gave Williams a beating despite losing giving him very little respect. Even with hardcore fans here. How many Paul Williams threads do you see here? And outside of this forum. Has Williams had any big money fights? Is he a household name? What exactly did Williams gain? He's still struggling to find opponents like he did before the fight with Margo.
    My point is a win over Margo does little for PBF's legacy as a whole he's and ATG with him or without him and people will always find a reason to discredit him with or without Margo on his resume.
     
  9. walk with me

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    yo beating margarito is absolutely worthless...

    especially if you beat him before he beats a p4p'er or something

    he literally has NOT ONE NOTE worthy fighter on his resume
     
  10. Pimp C

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    PBF stated after his fight with Brussles that he wanted Zoo check this link.http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/2005/0122_mayweather_bruseles/columns/index.html look at the post fight comments.

    But in reality what does it prove? The fight could never be made anyway.
     
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  12. Pimp C

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    Margo is being built up it's obvious. He has five losses on his record so you can't sell an undefeated fighter thing. He doesn't have great skills so you can't sell that. So that leaves all this most feared man in boxing bull**** that some here have bought into. The guy is basically a nobody but they have to sell him as some badass that Mosely, Winky and PBF are afraid of.:lol:
     
  13. Bazooka

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    Paul didnt gain much respect becuase the fight was pretty close so really he didnt seperate himself from Tony, as you all say Floyd would, again when Margarito beats Cotto you will see exactly his worth, and if Floyd were able to dominate and make the man look like an amateur that would do huge things for Floyd, Paul had an opportunity to do the same, but for a man who some how just doesnt have a defense he limited paul to around 200 plus shots landed out of 1200 thrown from paul.
    like I said if Floyd were able to manage to find a way to do what his fans say he could do, in my honest opinion that would be huge!!! either way we will never know becuase Floyd doesnt want to fight him, not that it wont do anything for him, but because I think Floyd knows his limits as well and isnt exactly confident enough in himself to test what he has against Tony.
    I really hope the fight between the two does happen, I would love to get the opportunity to eat crow if proved wrong, but Floyd just doesnt want it.
    look nobody argues Floyds talent, everybody knows the man has sick skills, but people want to see Floyd tested mentally, they want to see what Floyd has in other departments not just the skills department, and if there is one guy who can take Floyd to a place he is least comfortable its Margarito.
     
  14. freddy-wak

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    trust me when i say this.....


    FLOYD WILL BE FORGOTTEN ABOUT EASY

    he will always be remembered as a guy that could've , should've BUT DIDN'T
     
  15. DINAMITA

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    Great fighters mount mountains to build their legacy. IF PBF really truly wanted it, he could've got it done at some point. It's too easy just to say "Can't happen". I bet many fighters have been told the same but have pushed the boat out to get the biggest fight they can.