It's not all Arum's fault...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dee, Nov 24, 2011.


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  1. Dee

    Dee Well-Known Member Full Member

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    YES, Arum wanted to wait as long as possible to cash out Pacquiao...

    But over the past 2 years, Mayweather has been making excuse after excuse about Pacquiao.

    Olympic style doping tests are NOT mandatory in boxing. To criticise Pac for refusing them is NOT fair.

    If you have nothing to hide, then how about you let a secret camera be put in your bedroom by the Government? After all... You have nothing to hide... RIGHT????

    The day they become the norm is the day Pac should have to taken them.

    Floyd has called out Pac whenever it has been convenient, but then went quiet - whenever it has been convenient.

    That being said, Arum IS a stumbling block, who clearly does not want Pac to take a risky fight. Especially when he knows Pac will sell out even if it was a sparring session vs. a random club fighter.

    What I don't understand, is why is it that two years ago, Floyd was clearly ducking, and now all of a sudden it is as if it was Arum all along, and Floyd is all innocent?

    BULL****

    Only a ***** would state that Floyd never Cherrypicks. He saw a weakness in Pac after the JMM fight, and is now clearly confident he can beat him.

    So now Floyd begins to call out Pac like never before.

    Of course Arum doesn't want the fight. But to suggest that is was Pac's side that stopped the fight from happening all along is total and utter BULL.

    Pac's side weren't interested at times, and Floyd's side weren't interested at times.

    in 2009 when they were BOTH interested, the drug tests became an issue. Nobody in boxing other that ******ed fans truly believes that Pac is on PEDs. Mayweather is the master of the Mind ****, and he did that for a psychological edge on Pacquiao.

    Seems to be that only a bunch of idiots on this forum and many others are convinced that Pacquiao is taking Performance Enhancing Drugs.

    And if Pac IS on PEDs... Then innocent until proven guilty - As with EVERYBODY living in a democratic society.

    But keeping away from the PED debate before this turns into yet ANOTHER PED thread,

    The simple fact of the matter is, they have both avoided fights with one another at different times for various reasons.

    So please, grow up, and try and exist beyond your Binary existence of:

    "Floyd's ducking Pac!"
    or
    "Pac's scared of Floyd!"

    arguments, and try and develop some common sense.

    RANT OVER.
     
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  2. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah apparently Arum forced floyd to:

    Demand olympic style testing.

    Go on multiple vacations.

    Refuse several offers from Top Rank to make the fight happen.

    Take a fake retirement, and duck the entire elite of the 147 division.

    Contradict himself every other day regarding the fight.
     
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  3. smoovemann

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  4. Dee

    Dee Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are an example of the Binary People I urge to develop your mental skills.

    I'm not saying none of it is Floyd's fault... But are you saying it's ALLL Floyd's fault? Or even 99% of it is Floyd's fault?
     
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  5. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    Then Floyd must have a crystal ball that helps him see into the future, because he put it out there about reserving the venue and date to fight "the little fella" even before Pac/JMM III happened.

    I'm impressed.
     
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  6. Dee

    Dee Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, it happened a week before fight night.

    Did Floyd publicly state that it's being reserved for Pac?

    Or are you just guessing?

    Stop jumping on Bandwagons you know nothing about.

    And YES. You're another example of people who need to develop their thinking capacity beyond the binary sphere.
     
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  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Y'all are sad man...what else could you possibly need to see for you to understand Arum has prevented this fight from happening? I mean the mediator, Ellerbe, Hayman, Floyd, Ariza, it's pretty obvious at this point what's going on. Also since when do promoters have fans? I understand defending Manny, but WTF is up with the Arum fans?
     
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  8. drymarro

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    Arum is taking advantage of Manny :|
     
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  9. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    Guy makes an honest statement and you wanna throw out insults. Yeah, that will help others see what an knowledgeable poster you are. Good luck with that.

    You must have missed the report put out from ESPN about Floyd giving the thumbs-up to Richard Schafer to reach out to Top Rank to discuss the mega fight with Pac only to get told by Arum that they weren't interested.

    Try keeping up with current events because this is actually old news that was put out weeks ago.
     
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  10. thekid

    thekid SEC Full Member

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    die you ***
     
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  11. thekid

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    did floyd **** you?
     
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  12. jso416

    jso416 F U Nutthuggers!!! Full Member

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    Every boxing fan not a ***** or ******* already know they've been ducking eachother. No need to get your buttcheeks all tight about it.
     
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  13. DE100

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  15. Concrete

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    There is nothing wrong with Mayweather asking for extra random testing. Mosley and Ortiz had no problem with it and was a non-issue for them. It should have been a non issue with Pac. They had a problem with the testing because they ASSUMED ****.

    Most people didn't even have a problem if Pac turned it down, the problem was all the false stories, excuses, contradictions, hypocritical statements.

    After hearing the truth about how Arum has never really wanted the Mayweather fight how do you knock Mayweather for taking vacation. Obviously if Arum doesn't want the fight he is saying **** to Mayweather to turn him off. If they were telling Mayweather what he wanted hear he doesn't take vacation.

    Mayweather came out of retirement to fight Pac after he looked amazing beating the **** out of De La Hoya. It was also Pac who left 14 days on the table when the fight was there to be made. So the spin job of trying to act like Mayweather hasn't wanted the fight until this very moment since Pac has looked suspect vs counter punchers even though majority of boxing fans new this already is a bad spin job. Rant Over
     
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