It's not good when a boxer is allowed to collect multiple belts

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  1. BoxerToxer

    BoxerToxer Member banned Full Member

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    Suppose 1 boxer collects all belts in his weight division. Then it means there can be up to 1 or 2 title fights in 1 year. The division will not be competitive.

    If a boxer is allowed to carry only 1 belt at a time, then you can watch around 8 title fights in 1 year, and challengers won't have to wait for years to get their title shot (considering there are 4 sanctioning bodies, WBC, WBA, WBO and IBF).

    If, for example, WBA champion beats WBC champion, then WBA champion should be also WBC champion for a few weeks and then should be forced to drop one of the belts.
     
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  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    More belts up for grabs doesn't magically create more quality fighters in a division
     
  3. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unification fights sells better I think.
    This I think also depends from money boxers are demanding for fight.
    The same Caenlo is thinking that he is God, for media he is one from content providers and media never will care what boxing promoters and boxers are thinking. Media might earn with anything : from music, soccer, basketball, F-1 racing or comedians show or with boxing.
    No one in depth will care about this.

    If some Canelo had demanded x mil purse for him and x mil for his opponents, promoters might collect x mil from event then cos he is good tickets seller it is possible to pay these sums.
    If there is demand 40m+10m and even more, sorry.

    Canelo does not knows ( and boxing promoters ) that they are not NBA, Premier Leaque, Bundesliga or NHL.
    It is so hard to get in brains.
    Want big money? Sell unificiation fights with 2+ months notice.
    Too selfish? Besides pro boxing for media there are xxx things to earn money with.
    All world pro boxing promoters and their boxers are small pile in ocean from potential stuff media might earn with.
    No Canelo or No boxing? They will not suffer at all, it is small niche in US, not alone in europe/ asia.
     
  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I disagree...

    - Disincentivizes unification fights - champions won't see the reward in fighting other champions and as a result you won't see the best fight the best.
    We already see the best refusing to fight the best for unification bouts, if they had to risk a belt to not gain a belt, they've got another reason to balk.

    - Corruption - if fighters are forced to pick their org, then the orgs will compete to keep the best champion on their boat, if you think you've seen divas now, it'll get far worse.


    I don't care how many "title" fights we see, I just want to see competitive bouts with the best fighting the best.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jose Sulaiman, ladies and gentlemen.

    Thanks for stopping by, Jose.


    Actually, when there is one champion and one sanctioning body, things work a lot better. You know who the champ is. You know who the top contender is. You know who has to fight to become the top contender.

    You don't need FOUR sanctioning bodies to run one weight division. Too many cooks in a kitchen, as they say.

    You also don't need to collect any sanctioning fees to rate 10 fighters.

    Just write them down.
     
  6. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, still we are not in Thailand for example if talking about MT or in Japan if talking about Judo.
    Casuals looks that loves to read up about belts.
    Journalists are more attracted if there are belts mentioned and this is cos majority of sport journalists are not in boxing field. Not rare cases sport portals does have xxx comments about other sports, xx comments about combat sports etc.
    General public is not so interested about combat sports like we might had dream.
    In one sport portal I today had read article about soccer and article about possible fight for IBF World title.

    I will tell you difference in number of comments: soccer : 60 comments, possible fight for IBF world title : 7 comments.
    This small portal usually does have approx 8 k visitors each day including weekends.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This is the worst post I've ever seen on this forum.

    And that has taken some doing.
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Jesus it's a bad day when I find myself agreeing with Dubblechin (LOL)

    Quick, must find a Wilder thread (LOL)
     
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  9. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  10. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    What on earth are you talking about ?

    There are FAR to many belts in boxing as it is....... look at how boxing used to be e.g. ONE champion per division and look at the UFC for example, again ONE champion per division.

    Josh Taylor doing what he did recently in becoming the undisputed champ is near on a miracle in itself given all the nonsense you have to hurdle, stupid sanctioning fees, politics (e.g. Mauricio the crook Sulaiman) etc

    Absolutely ridiculous post
     
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  11. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just like in the show, from a while back, The Highlander: "There can only be one!"
     
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  12. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    :nonono

    Around these parts,
    It's often felt,
    That boxing needs,
    Another Belt,

    Creating more,
    That ain't a sin,
    So lets have lots,
    Of Belts to win,

    You'll find that it's,
    A nice surprise,
    To find the champ,
    Is now Franchise,

    Why just have one,
    To rule the globe,
    What are you man,
    A Beltophobe?
     
  13. kim_jong_un

    kim_jong_un Member banned Full Member

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    Lol. If anything, unifications should be mandatory. There should be a small organization governing the sanctioning bodies in order to set up mandatory unifications.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    An org to govern the half-dozen orgs? (LOL) :rolleyes:

    How about just one world governing organization, one World champ per division and one set of world-rated contenders? :campeon:

    Just one.

    The Brits can keep their British titles. U.S. orgs can keep their US champs. Mexican orgs can keep their Azteca belts.

    But one WORLD Champ. One World Ratings. One World Org. Since there is just this one world to rule over, and all.
     
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  15. kim_jong_un

    kim_jong_un Member banned Full Member

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    It’s never gonna happen. What I proposed is more realistic.