It's OFFICIAL: Golden Boy Promotions is dirty and corrupt.

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  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Consider:

    1) Guzman/Funeka - We all know the deal about this one. Guzman recently signed with GBP and GBP promoted this fight.

    2) Casamayor/Santa Cruz - Viewed by many as THE worst robbery in the last 10 years. Guess who Casamayor just signed with going into this fight and who promoted this card? You guessed it, GBP.

    3) Diaz/Malignaggi - Another card promoted by GBP and another GBP fighter getting a very, very questionable decision.

    Coincidence?
     
  2. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you think it's any less of a coincidence that the top 10 P4P list published by The Ring (Oscar's mag) features all HBO fighters given what a cozy relationship GBP and HBO have?
     
  3. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not really. There's about 4. Rest are not GBP fighters.
     
  4. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The question for me is, at what level is the corruption being okayed? At the CEO level with DLH and Schaefer? Or with some lower level people? My guess is, it has to be okayed by the highest level. So if that's true, my view of DLH has completely changed.

    I mean you can't just ignore the fact that two of the most questionable decisions in recent memory were just signed GBP fighters who fought in cards that were promoted by GBP. It doesn't get any worse than Funeka/Guzman and Casamayor/Santa Cruz.
     
  5. topdog88

    topdog88 frohaye Full Member

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    what about a maybe answer or a not sure answer?
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    They don't have to all be GBP fighters- the reason for that is that HBO knows fans look to the Ring's rankings. So, by scratching GBP's back and investing more of their boxing budget into GBP fighters, I don't doubt it'd be out of the question for HBO to want their fighters to get the benefit of the doubt in the P4P rankings because that helps out the marketing on HBO's end.

    Example 1: Chad Dawson never got ranked fighting for Showtime; now, 3 weeks after he beats a guy he already beat clearly on HBO, he gets in.

    Example 2: The two strongest divisions in the sport right now are 147 and 168. 147 is HBO's turf, while 168 is Showtime's. In the current P4P rankings, 6 out of the top 10 fighters are guys who have a history of fighting 147 and can in the near future.

    168 has zero fighters ranked. By comparison, one of the thinner divisions, Light Heavyweight, boasts 2 fighters. Not surprisingly, they're both HBO guys, too.


    This isn't to say that the fighters in question aren't accomplished by any means; my point is just that it should be pretty clear that in the case of any close call, The Ring's going to give the tiebreaker to the HBO fighter.
     
  7. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is total bull****, it was just bad judging, why DLH care about Guzman, he is a 33 year old fighter, who is no world beater. there is no reason for it.
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    And to answer your original question klion (I'm sorry for veering your thread off track there lol), I think it's entirely possible, but I wouldn't know who the buck stops with were that the case. At some point in the food chain, the accountability is on Oscar to control the reputation of his company, but it's hard to say who the exact triggerman is that sets these up.
     
  9. M.I.G.

    M.I.G. and STILL... Full Member

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    good post.
     
  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks man. :!::good
     
  11. thesandman51

    thesandman51 teh secks Full Member

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    The Diaz robbery can easily be attributed to the hometown advantage.

    The other 2...who knows.
     
  12. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    please dont forget the chris john rocky juarez draw, and the demetrious hopkins stevie forbes debacle.
     
  13. harvinmagler

    harvinmagler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    both were awful decisions
     
  14. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can“t be. Only in Germany! :happy
     
  15. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    GBP fighters have had bad decisions go the other way as well, and bad decisions happen all the time. It's ridiculous to pick out a specific three and say there's some kind of pattern. If there's a pattern, it's that the fighter who has the big money behind him tends to get the bad decision. That's not just a GBP thing though - happens all the time. It's not because the judges get paid off either, but there can be some motivation to give more favorable decisions to the guy who has the bigger promoter, since under many circumstances the promoter picks the judges.
     
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