IT'S OFFICIAL!!!!! Wlad And Haye Are Negotiating!!!!!

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  1. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Being #1 and having titles is irrelevant if the drawing power is the same.
    2. Filling 60,000 seater stadiums, yeah, and getting the same $$ as Haye got for a poxy 10,000 attendance in Germany, again irrelevant.
    3. I already addressed the Ruiz numbers.
    4. Hypocrisy. You have a dig at me for the Ruiz numbers then ask how many would buy Chagaev when we don't know how much that generated for Wlad.

    I'm not interested in arguing, I've presented my case, a financial based one, the basis for 99% of fights nowdays.

    Haye earned $8 million for Ruiz, Wlad earned $8 million for Chambers. The drawing power is the same. 50/50
     
  2. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Id rather see Haye vs Adamek, TBH.

    A much better fight.
     
  3. MickeyBlueEyess

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    I actually dont remember this bet at all, but i'll take your word for it.

    So when the fight happens, Wlad wins i leave for good and if Haye wins you go for good?

    Sounds good to me, roll on fight night :D
     
  4. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have the numbers for wlad for sure for Chambers i doubt that included the staduim? as well as all tv rights? post a link for your numbers

    Im asking you HOW many you think Chagaev or Meehan would produce? if by your estimates half of the people who watched Valuev watched Ruiz.
    As in his next fight if not wlad
    you really think it would do Valuev like Numbers i already stated why Valuev is hard to gague how much of it was Haye and how much was that it was the first title shot for a fighter from the uk in years, You have yet to present any argument why? his next fight suggest's that it might of been quite a lot, Also you sure haye recieved all the funds from the ppv or did ruiz recieve a cut :blood

    drawing power is not the same Haye is hardly know by anybody when you leave the UK you use one fight justify that he has equal earning potentia and drawing power, l when you are not even sure of the accuracy of the only numbers you know for one fight of wlad's and what it includes was it rights from television was it everything, 50-60 k people in a stadium and that was against Chambers FFS who was what kind of draw without wlad? A lot less then valuev. Also a stadium with 60 thousand people at just 30$ a ticket is 1.8 million dollars so i think your numbers are total B.S
     
  5. bald_head_slick

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    Great, but I think he should go after Vitali first.

    I just can't see him dealing with Wlad. Vitali for that matter, but at least you MIGHT have a better speed and willingness to mix it up advantage going for Haye.

    Good luck Haye. Good luck.
     
  6. zchen

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    Great fight if made... but I won't be surprised if Haye chickened out again :yep
     
  7. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Last I read, Haye was tired and needed to rest, and wasn't ready to consider anyone as his next opponent.

    Is there a more recent statement from Haye's camp?

    I didn't think so.
     
  8. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I will believe this fight is taking place when both fighters are in the ring. Until then, Haye and the Klitschkos have been in talks before and nothing has come of it. I do feel bad for Povetkin, he has been a mandatory since 2008.

    As for who would be more heart broken if their fighter lost. Klitschko fans will be upset, but they have seen it before. Haye fans still refuse to acknowledge that their man got KO'd by Carl Thompson.
     
  9. BoxingFanNo1

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  11. Hermit

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    Wlad beat Chagev, the rightful WBA champion after Don King found a way to derail the Valuev/Chagev fight. Haye only beat the interim champ in Valuev. Haye's belt/title is therefore bogus. Haye is now the poster child for 'paper champion' if ever there was one.
     
  12. BoxingFanNo1

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    Klitschko's earnings from TV money (around 3 million euros from RTL, plus 1 million from international broadcasting), ticket revenue (about 2 million) and advertising was estimated at 6 million.

    That's total dude.

    You telling me Wlad earned 17.4 million?:rofl
     
  13. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No you're source is telling you that. That section is talking about what Wladimir made. It says he made 3 million euros from RTL, 1 million from international TV (which seems lower than it should be), 2 million from the live gate, and 6 million from sponsorships. 3+1+2+6=12, 12 x 1.45= 17.4, which means Wlad made $17.4 million.
     
  14. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if that was total half would be well over 8 million and you really think chambers got 50% :rofl But yeah alca is right maybe you should read it again its talking about wlad's earnings and damn maybe Haye doesnt deserve 40% according to you now....
     
  15. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're reading the article out of context.

    Klitschko earned TV money 4 million + ticket revenue and advertising 2 million.

    That's 6 million Euros ($8 million) total, the 6 million is the total of the 4+2, it's not stated by itself.

    You're saying Wlad earned roughly the same amount Lewis did vs Vitali?

    You're pulling my chain mate.