*****Its On!!!! Kessler Vs Calzaghe Is Done!!!!!!!!!! HOOOLLLYYY SHIITTTT******

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nawfal, Jul 11, 2007.


  1. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Agreed on all the winners except for Dawson - I think Hopkins could pull out a decision.

    So I see you are picking Hopkins next week by a wide decision:hey
     
  2. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If a normal Kessler fight costs $85 on PPV here in Denmark, I am beginning to chill at the thought of how much this will cost. :patsch
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yes, Wright's a fish out of water when he can't plant and get off, as well as use his strength to his advantage.

    This will be unentertaining to the slugfest fans, but it will be a masterful display of pugilistic ability from the old man against an overmatched, stylistically disadvantages future HOF'er.
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I agree with you there - this isn't Tito Trinidad who fought 2 times in the 4 years leading up to the Wright fight or a natural 135 pounder in Mosley. Hopkins is bigger, stronger, and rougher. Wright's days of sticking and moving are over and he does have to plant more and have a stationary target to land on right now. And B-Hop's usage of angles, his ring smarts, and his great footwork should win him the fight (much like how I would see Calzaghe beating Wright as well).
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Exactly, you see this issue surrounding Calzaghe, Kessler/Calzaghe clearly like you do with any match belonging to truly skilled practicioners of the sport, no surprise.

    No American, or Euro fraud like Ottke for example wanted the fight with Calzaghe at any point pre-Lacy and Joe was so disrespected it was disgusting....

    Of course Winky and Hopkins won't step in with Joe after he clearly beats Kessler, for the 41 year old Hops, it's impossible to win and for Wright stylistically, it's even more impossible. Let's add to the fact that I had Spinks beating Taylor 7 rounds to 5, as well as Wright beating Taylor 8-4....

    What's Joe going to do to Taylor? Thrash him the **** out of there, no way does DiBella allow that one mate.
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I never saw the fight, but didn't most people believe Robin Reid beat Sven Ottke?
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I've seen all of Sven's title fights my friend and if Americans did also, they'd hate this mother ****er so much that they'd want to place a hit on the ***** and his promoter germs, and that shitty German media.

    Reid won a CLEAR 117-111 fairly.

    Let's back this with others:

    Glen Johnson won a CLEAR 116-112

    Byron Mitchell won a close but clear 115-113

    Silvio Branco won what could have been a 115-113 in his favour, or a draw, but Ottke didn't deserve that win either.

    There were some others also...

    All in all, Ottke got about 7 blatant robbery wins in his career, it was as fraudulent as all get out and I ABSOLUTELY don't RANK Sven Ottke anywhere near the top 10 at SMW because of this, even though the wins are in the books for that fraud.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    If JT loses to Pavlik, I think that would give them even more reason to stay away from Joe - another loss would be devestating to Taylor's career.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Oh give me a break!:patsch

    You can't rank Ottke near Spinks, Spinks has some good wins and is a real elite competitor, I scored the fight of Spinks-Taylor for Spinks, but a draw was acceptable, where I don't consider a Taylor win acceptable.
     
  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I have seen very few Ottke fights (two or three maybe) - I saw the Glen Johnson fight and thought Johnson deserved the victory. After reading about all these fights, I feel like purchasing them online, but I'm not sure I want to waste my money on Sven Ottke fights or have my blood pressure elevate after these robbieries I have heard so much about.

    Here's another matchup to think about - Sven Ottke vs. Jermain Taylor
     
  11. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Woah. I think Reid won in a close fight but 117-111 is crazy. I've also seen Johnson-Ottke and Mitchell-Ottke and while I don't have scorecards, I didn't come away from EITHER of those fights thinking "robbery"... Haven't seen the Branco fight, so can't comment.

    All in all, I agree with Requiem regarding Ottke. See post above. :yep
     
  12. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I see what you meant....after a few tuneup fights at 168, yes, I agree with you that they would almost have to go after Joe. I thought you meant comeback fight, sorry about that:good
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I don't know what Requiem is on about in the Ottke issue, but I watched them all live in Europe my friend at the time they happened, where as most Americans did not see the fights(which I am wondering if Requiem is just stating he saw it for conversational sake only, or saw some clips or anything of that sort).

    You'll get pissed, because the Johnson and Reid fights were the standard. If Ottke fought, he was getting the win on the cards if he was not KOed.

    He was also not a technition like Spinks, he was a disgusting runner like Dirrell.
     
  14. Jambon

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    FINALLY!!!! I willl have to respect however wins(if not contreversial). Cant wait to see this.

    If Calzague wins fairly close, he is top p4p and a HOF. Kessler career goes on and he probably does good things later on.

    If Kessler wins fairly close, there both great fighters and deserve mention in p4p.

    If its a washout, the looser will be treated as garge, as always. I think thats a worst senario for the older fighter.


    The time of holding on to single belts for years and years against weakest possible opposition seems at an end(See Ottke, Beyer, Dariusz Michalczewski, Calzague until now and others).
     
  15. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's about time this fight finally happened. I believe this is the first time in history that we have the #1 at 168 facing off against the #2.

    Props to both guys for signing the dotted line.