*****Its On!!!! Kessler Vs Calzaghe Is Done!!!!!!!!!! HOOOLLLYYY SHIITTTT******

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nawfal, Jul 11, 2007.


  1. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ottke had a lot of close fights, but most he won fair and square - the problem is his style was so crappy that people really wanted him to loose.

    In my book he should have lost the Reid-fight - but the way the referee judged the fight - Ottke won. Mitcheel got beaten fair and square - so did Branco. The first Brewer-fight could be argued a loss to Ottke, but he won the second clearly.

    Claiming that Ottke never faced the best is also lame - Calzaghe beat Eubanks as the only name that Ottke didn't beat - and Ottke beat most of them first. So if Ottke never faced the best neither did Calzaghe.

    As for Dawson - who the hell died and made him P4P??? - he has one decent win to his record and all of a sudden he is boxings next great thing... He'll never be great with that chin!

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    As for Calzaghe-Kessler

    The legacy-gain for Calzaghe (if he wins) very much depends on how the fight goes - he'll gain more from a close fight, than he will should Blocky's prediction come true.

    I'm hoping for a close enough fight to warrent a rematch :)
     
  2. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good
    i'm more excited about this fight, than i was for mayweather-de la hoya. calzaghe KO 9
     
  3. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    warren must have a fight by fight contract with ITV ?

    obviously the fight is going out PPV on irish sat station setanta, at £15 to £20 i would guess.

    since warren has looked to setanta for tv money and bascially told american tv they were to slow, the fight will go out prime time in the uk , which is a good thing.
     
  4. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    awesome, this fight is great for boxing!!!!
     
  5. Gsand

    Gsand Active Member Full Member

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    warren has said they are going to try and fill 60,000 in the millenium so i would say it will be 10pm BST and america will just have to watch early doors
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Agreed fully, that's ridiculous isn't it?

    Had Taylor jumped up to 168 and took on Lacy after he beat Hopkins and barely etched by in a war for example, but with a clear win, then Taylor would have been considered a near P4P #1.

    Joe trashes Lacy worse than anything and while the initial reaction was everyone dazzled, it's faded out as Lacy being garbage overtime.
     
  7. rochsolloch

    rochsolloch stephen chinnock Full Member

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    calzaghe will be secretly dissapointed ,he wanted hopkins or taylor or winky wright,kessler was his last choice.
    im going as soon as tickets are put on sale im getting mine and if any 1 wants 1 tell me and ill get it for you then you can pay me at the stadium.
     
  8. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow - two post in a row, where I agree with Blocky :D

    Can't have that!!!

    I don't think it's boxing being "stupid" - if Calzaghe beats Kessler with the ease he did Lacy, then it can mean two things:

    1. Calzaghe is just out of anybodies league - this would only show in time - if Kessler or Lacy goes on to dominate after Calzaghe retires = big legacy-gain

    2. Kessler was just a over-hyped one-dimensional eurofighter = little legacy-gain.

    If the fight is close:

    3. Calzaghe win = big legacy-gain - fought the best and beat him in a close fight! - made even bigger if Kessler goes on to dominate

    4. Calzaghe loss = big legacy-gain - fought the young new champion in the fall of his career and gave the kid a run for his money - might have beaten him in his prime. (which I'm sure a lot of posters here will claim, if that is the result.)

    If you look at some of the greats - they are normally defined in close fights - Hagler-Duran - Hagler-Sugar Ray - Sugar Ray-Hearns ... and so on. Only when we can see the limitations of a fighter we can truely judge his abilities - as far as I can see we haven't seen the limitations of Calzaghe or Kessler yet.

    Hopefully the fight is so close that it warrents a rematch! :good
     
  9. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe might still get some credit for the Lacy-beating (although I think he has gotten some - but he has also ruined the momentum from that win by fighting Bika/Manfredo - a true champ doesn't fight people that bad) - If Lacy goes on to domiate, then Calzaghe's fame will raise. I doubt he will though - he isn't that good and the opponents have been shown that he is not the "tyson-like" monster he was made out to be.

    As for the Taylor-Lacy senario - it has to be taken into account that both fighters are american too - that's important if your aiming for the P4P number #1 :yep
     
  10. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Wow, nice deal!

    Looks like this generation doesn't plan on making the mistakes of the previous one. Eat your heart out Roy Jones. :yep
     
  11. haavard

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    Mogens Palle mentioned in Danish media the fight to take place at 2-3 past midnight in Denmark in order to be viewed live in the States. If that is true, then the fight will take place in UK at 1 or 2 o'clock past midnight.
     
  12. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    SUPERFIGHT!

    We should all make a pact on this site that nobody gets to say either fighter was overrated should either lose! This is two world class operators going head to head, Calzaghe wins, he's top 2 P4P(in my eyes) and Kessler top 5.
     
  13. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Goooooo JC !

    Biggest fight of the year by far

    IMO
     
  14. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this is a great post

    the only thing i disagree with is the Old ******* comfortably outpointing Wright

    but still brillant analysis of those fights imo
     
  15. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    One thing i need to ask though is why is this not on ITV ?

    I mean i don't mind shelling out for such a good fight but it would have been even better for free