It's Pacquiao Vs Marquez! Official!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chimba, Nov 26, 2007.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Hatton is not in the least bit a dangerous opponent for Floyd, he's absolutely, 100% tailor made for him and people think that all pressure fighters are the same and that all pressure fighters will stylistically mess with Floyd.

    Hatton doesn't even have a consistent, stiff jab to deploy, he's just going to get hammered.

    How about this, if Hatton doesn't win a round and gets smashed to bits, will you admit that Hatton was overrated by the British media, which then spread all over the boxing world due to people thinking he was a likable guy and him being matched well.

    Defensive counter puncher>Hatton's style.

    Now, who's the best defensive counter puncher in the sport?:yep

    A little guy named Floyd Mayweather perhaps?:yep

    The good part about your post was that only a handful of my picks this year were dead wrong and the rest were right or in the area of being right with the winner being correct.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    hatton is a good win for mayweather. i will compare it to pacquiao fighting barrera a second time around where pac/mayweather is expected to win, but hatton/barrera is good enough to pull an upset.
     
  3. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure why not, Hatton is also one of the best pressure fighters in the sport right now. He is guaranteed to win at least one round. :yep
    I don't really care much about your picks though, I had most of my picks this year being correct as well, whatever you want to make of it.

    I am curious though, how did you score Guzman-Soto?
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hatton's accomplishments in the ring speak for themselves. Your analysis is YOUR analysis and nothing more or less to me. The only person here trying to influence something one way or another is you. I have no need to glorify anything, I don't take this as personal as you do.

    And I don't believe I have gotten much wrong in the way of picks OR analysis this year. So I think I am comfortable on my own.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I scored it 117-111, I told everyone it was going to be an easy Guzman win and laid out why, many thought Soto had a good chance, now Soto is just a bum apparantley.

    So my goal is for these awful Hatton fans to have it thrown back into their faces for overrating this very solid, but non-elite guy up as if he were a top P4P/potential ATG type of guy, which he clearly is not.

    And hey 4 rounder, he's not one of the best pressure guys in the sport, he's the best rough housing swarmer in the sport, but one who is exceptionally tailor made for a good counter puncher with a good defence, if you get my drift.

    Traditional pressure works behind fundamentals, such as a stiff jab and good timing, which Cotto and Castillo both present to Floyd, Castillo giving many problems back in the day. Cotto would defeat Floyd in my opinion, close fight either way.

    Floyd/Hatton is a wipe out, it'll make Floyd look REALLY good, not quite as good as he did vs. Gatti, but in that general realm and all because of styles and intangibles, thus why Floyd picked Hatton instead of one of the more challenging WW's.

    Hatton basically has no chance, he won't win a round and he'll get thrashed.

    I just hope people will realise what Hatton is afterwards, but I am here on the record beforehand so nobody can accuse me of 'talking **** after the fight', especially after they get blown away by a totally predictable performance from Floyd if you've analysed the overrated situation involving Ricky Hatton.

    It's going to be a bloodbath.
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Having to use a lot of excessive illegal tactics and a hometown ref to defeat an aging, inactive HOF'er?

    Other than the Tszyu win, which he deserved his P4P spot after it despite the way he won, he's KOed a totally shot Castillo, he's shown IMMENSE flaws, he was peppered and countered and stunned nasty by a B level WW in Luis Collazo, showing serious stylistic flaws to a counter puncher with a sense of defence, showed weakness to the body against a C level Urango and KOed Maussa really nice.

    He's just shown me to be a good fighter, but a ton of flaws.

    Certainly isn't on the level of a Juan Manuel Marquez and he's PERFECT for a real elite, like Floyd or Cotto for example, to absolutely blow away and get acclaim for it because people don't realise his limitations due to the hype surrounding him.

    If he doesn't win a round and get totally annihilated, will you at least admit that Floyd picked him for that reason? Because even Baldomir made Floyd pot shot and due a little running.:yep
     
  7. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I scored it 115-113 for Guzman. Soto did have a chance but Guzman played his cards well. And Soto a bum? oh my :?. Showing some bias there Amster, but whatever.


    I don't know about this one. :!:
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    You are very liberal in giving rounds to a guy who lands very little and gets countered well then, maybe Hatton will win a few pity rounds off of you mate. But he's still getting beaten up pretty badly and stopped in a one sided fight.

    And no, Soto is not a bum, I meant that sarcastically as in an attempt for the Soto supporters(Pac fanatics in fear of the mystical Guzzy), they now have detested Soto and act like they didn't support him. Thus, the 'apparantley Soto is now a bum since Guzman outclassed him' remark from me, citing boxing fans foolishness.
     
  9. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very well then, understandable seeing who we gotta deal with. :smoke
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    well, soto is a bum. he was rocked so hard by bobby (another bum) that he used the remaining time and the next round just to recover.
     
  11. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kinda reminds me of the cotto/torres fight.
     
  12. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    They could have agreed? Could have? :yep

    That's excatly what you call a speculation. :lol:

    Let me refresh your memory. What was printed was JMM agreeing for the pay cut and going up to 135 just make the fight happen, no mention of all other terms. Arum said it's reasonable but Pac still have to make the final choice. Pac made the decission, so we're now here in this position.

    What you're missing are all the press releases that says Pac is inclined on fighting Diaz which pressured Team JMM and GBP to give in up to the last demand. So isn't that a ploy?

    Now . . . if you're reffering to the article that says Pac dropped JMM and chose David Diaz after JMM's declaration, that was a clear fabricated lie which Roach immediately rebutted the same day it was put in print. Pac hasn't made a decission at that point yet. So it's useless to use that as refference :deal

    Yeah right . . . you only see what you chose to see . . . that exactly applies to you.

    :D :lol:
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    And here is a prime example of the moronic factors that I was talking about. Nobody said Soto was a true elite, we just said that he was a very good fighter, perhaps B+ level, right under the elite.
     
  14. Spitfire7

    Spitfire7 Gadfly Full Member

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    Finally (after all the wranglings, the endless debates, etc, etc)! The Match-up of the Decade.

    :happy :happy :happy

    Pac T/KO's JMM to retirementland in 9-10.
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    just kidding. i know soto is good fighter. and guzman had a good win against a certified contender. unfortunately, guzman will not get a fight against pacquiao or marquez right at this time. i hope he gets his career-defining fight soon.