It's possible Mayweather-Ortiz PPV sales will not do good

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  1. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Since when has HBO been fishy about PPV?

    Here is what Dan said today....

    Jon (NYC)

    Any word on the Star Power PPV buys? Been two weeks and nothing from HBO or Golden Boy! Could it have done that bad?
    Dan Rafael (12:24 PM)

    I have been in touch with Richard Schaefer and HBO regularly. They simply do not have enough data yet from some huge systems to make an accurate report of the numbers. What people dont realize is that when numbers are announced they are done based on years of experience and extrapalation of numbers based on comparing fights to other similar fights and totals in certain markets. For whatever reason this fight has been harder than others. That said both Schaefer and HBO, without saying a specific number they do not have yet, both have told me that without question the fight is well over 1 million buys. The big question is how much over. They want to announce a number that they believe will be close enough to the real number and since it may be 1.3 or more and edge close to 2nd all-time non heavyweight they want to be right. By the same token, it could be 1.2 or 1.25 and not hit 1.3. They just want to be correct from what they both tell me. But the rumors and innuendo that it did poorly is just a load of crap.
     
  2. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yep
     
  3. eze

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    850k is now bad I guess. Even though it's a complete rumor.
     
  4. Chibuku

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    Now you understand why people would rather fight people like morales and the faded people who are known than the likes of Ortiz.Mayweather will be fighting Canelo next
     
  5. PrinceN

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  6. PrinceN

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    its completely false rumor. The numbers will come out and when they do one thing you can be sure of is it will be well over a million buys and mayweather haters will call foul but Floyd will be laughing all the way to the bacnk

    Dan Rafel was asked in his chat toady and this is what he said
    Isai (OKC)

    Heard this morning that PPV buys for Mayweather could be as low as 850k. How possible is the statement?
    Dan Rafael (12:59 PM)

    From what I have been told by Schaefer and HBO that is preposterous. Much higher.
     
  7. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    Steve Kim heard that Floyd-Ortiz got only 850k PPV buys...

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  8. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    Mayweather vs. Ortiz Ticket Sales Crawl so MGM Gives Them Away

    Where a fight of this magnitude would probably sell-out in a matter of hours a few years back, a few things have changed to make the ticket market more than sluggish, but at a crawl today. The Mayweather vs. Ortiz fight is way behind in ticket sales for the 14,000 seats offered.

    The inflated price of the tickets is probably the biggest factor affecting the sales, especially when the fight is on Pay-Per-View. In this economy people are struggling and entertainment is one of the first things to get cut from the list when people need to buckle down with a budget.

    Floyd Mayweather vs. Victor Ortiz fight is one of the biggest of the year and believe it or not, the MGM Grand is far from sold-out when it comes to tickets.

    To add insult to injury to the boxing fans that need to choose between eating for a month and buying a ticket for the Mayweather vs. Ortiz event, free tickets are available, but not for them. The MGM Grand is just giving tickets away to their VIPs.

    When the cameras at the Mayweather and Ortiz bout, the last thing the promoters will want visible to the rest of the world is a bunch of empty seats. They need to at least look like they're packing them in and they would be if they offered seats at reasonable prices during a hard hit economy.

    As the website Bad Left Hook puts it, they are giving away tickets to people who can well afford to buy them and don't even want them in the first place. They also suggest the tickets are not just a "little overpriced, they're ridiculously overpriced."

    The fight will do just fine when it comes to raking in the money as the gate money is still predicted to do well. Then there's the big pay-off of the Pay-Per-View money, which will no doubt be a spectacular payday, as many fans will chip in and watch this fight from home.
     
  9. ovechkin8crosby

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  10. PH|LLA

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    I think anything below Pac's PPV numbers against Mosley would be a disappointment for Floyd.
     
  11. Bladegunner

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    Those numbers never officially came out.:lol:

    Bob threw it out there once but we still waiting for official confirmation. Considering arum never ever mentioned it again speaks volumes that he lied.

    Could be also the same with mayweather v ortiz ppv. When a ppv does well both camp can't stop talking about it, arum was silent in the pac v mosley ppv numbers and golden boy been silent about this one. Both ppv's did not do the numbers that had been said.

    In fact fight hype was the first to throw pac v mosley ppv numbers out there with out a solid source, everyone else ran with it, and fight hype were also the ones to throw the 1.3 ppv buys for mayweather v ortiz.
     
  12. NotAnMMAfan

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    Difference is, there was no talk news rumors about the PAC/Mosley PPV numbers to dispute the 1.3 M. In Floyd/Ortiz case it's different. Granting some of the source are confirmed Floyd-Hater but still, when there's smoke there's a fire. :deal
     
  13. Bladegunner

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    Arum clearly bullshited this is what he says about pac v mosley ppv numbers

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    This was all done for us in the past by HBO, which had experience, charts and all kinds of data from past fights to compare the fight to. Showtime can't do it because they haven't done this in so long. They don't have the database that you need, but
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    These are exactly the same sentences more or less echoed by Schaffer about mayweather v ortiz ppv's, nothing ever officially confirmed:patsch
     
  14. Thomas!!

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    lol who cares zzz lol
     
  15. Thomas!!

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    zzzzzzzz :tired