It's Pretty Clear Now - Kovalev Just Doesn't Have the Greatest Punch Resistance

lol. YOUR BOY COULDNT HIT A VOLLEYBALL WITH A BASEBALL BAT TONIGHT!. why didnt he punch ward in the rest of the fight?

 

yeah !! WARD is the man !!

 

"So if a fighter gets hurt badly and they get hit by a punch that's borderline they should just milk and try and look for the DQ right"
Kovalev was out. You can push this to Kovalev looking for a way out if you wish but the fact is that he was stunned form a big right had than hit by 3 hard body shows, one of which was clearly low.

"also you have to factor in if it's accidental or not."
You also have to factor in the context, The context here being that Ward had been warned once for a low blow, and had another low blow shown on reply just before the stoppage. Evidence pointing the the low blow in the stoppage as being intentional and not a one off thing.

"Anyone that's calling for a DQ is either the biggest Kovalev nutriders, have a certain agenda,"
I'm sure you'll bring up my post history supporting your claim?

"How can you support someone who compares a black fighter to a chimp?"
If Kovalev were from a western country like the US, Canada, or the UK then I wouldn't have a problem with him being called a racist. I'm not going to pretend like I understand cultural barriers though. Obviously there's no excuse anymore since Kovalev has been living in America for a while now. However in this particular case, I don't have a problem with anyone of Stevenson's criminal background being called names. I'm sure the women he's beat would much preferred name calling than physical abuse. But don't set here and pretend like you aren't setting up a double standard precedent knowing that the majority of Ward supporters are Mayweather supporters guilty of the exact thing you're pointing out.

At the end of the day it shows the difference between some fight fans. Maybe it's the reason why I don't post on here a ton but I've never been one to get involved in a fighters personal life. I've pointed out how terrible Stevenson is a person and how immature Broner is but outside of that I doubt I've made many comments on any fighters actions outside the ring. My criticisms on Ward, which are also sparse, have been purely about his actions inside the ring. My fandom with fighters is pretty consistent with fighters who I feel are exciting in the ring, and more likely to take on the other top challengers in the ring. Don't try and compare me with some of these EE nuthuggers that post junk all day long on this forum.

 

No they're between his legs, if you follow Wards gloves they land there 9-10 times.

 

"I don't have a problem with anyone of Stevenson's criminal background being called names."

This pretty much sums you up. You do realize that when Kovalev calls another black man a chimp he encourages that behavior and it is also insulting to other black people right? LOL at using Adonis' past as an excuse to be racist and encourage racism. Insulting him is one thing, being racist is another."

"Kovalev was out. You can push this to Kovalev looking for a way out if you wish but the fact is that he was stunned form a big right had than hit by 3 hard body shows, one of which was clearly low."
That is a subjective opinion. Not a fact.

"You also have to factor in the context, The context here being that Ward had been warned once for a low blow, and had another low blow shown on reply just before the stoppage. Evidence pointing the the low blow in the stoppage as being intentional and not a one off thing."

There's absolutely no proof that the 1st low blow was intentional. When you go to the body things happen. One thing was intentional forsure though, that was Kovalev's rabbit punches. There is no evidence at all pointing to the low blows being intentional. It's funny cause the real EE dickriders besides the usual racists aren't even calling for a DQ. Guys like UTF and Cafe who aren't on the extreme side but definitely pro-ee. You lumped yourself wtih the likes of Kevin Willis and Todd though.

Seriously lol @ calling for a DQ. The fact that you constantly try and argue with me and defend GGG kind of gave me a hint to what kind of poster you were. I wasn't completely sure, but the fact that you tried to justify Kovalev's racism and tried to call for a DQ basically tells all.

Still enjoying your tears though.

 

It did not look good at the end, that's for sure.

I would imagine we will be hearing from Kathy Duva on the ending of the fight, in the time to come.

 

Kovalev has a solid chin. But he's not up with the Vitali's or GGG's, sure.

But I don't think he has a particularly weak chin.

His body may be a bit weak, though. Relatively speaking.

 

So if the beltline is above the navel and you still think he's got hit low? Ok then

 

"You do realize that when Kovalev calls another black man a chimp he encourages that behavior and it is also insulting to other black people right?"
You realize I said it's not okay for Kovalev to do that right? Pushing a narrative onto somebody is also not okay.

"That is a subjective opinion. Not a fact."

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A clear low blow, A clear wince, Referee clearly stopping it directly after. Nothing about this is subjective in the real world.

"There's absolutely no proof that the 1st low blow was intentional."
Of course not, which is why a point was not deducted. But continuing to land low blows is a foul regardless of whether or not they are intentional. This is NOT a hard concept to understand.

"One thing was intentional forsure though, that was Kovalev's rabbit punches."
the rabbit punches were clear fouls that should have been called out. The ref was not doing his job. The difference between those rabbit punches and the low blows is that one ended the fight and the other did not. By your own words, you have to take into consideration the severity of the foul.

"It's funny cause the real EE ****riders besides the usual racists aren't even calling for a DQ."
Of course not, their posts will be brought up in the future when they're defending one of their own doing the same thing. I'm going to be the consistent one here and say that a fighter than ends a fight through clear fouls caught on film should be DQ'd.

"You lumped yourself wtih the likes of Kevin Willis and Todd though."
Neither name sticks out as a extreme on either side of the argument. I'll have to pay attention to their posts to see if my inclusion in their group is a bad thing. I expect two see two posters who are consistent with their view and point out fouling though or else I'll be disappointed.

 

So do you want to keep going back and forth? Sure. I can address everything you've said. If you truly want to I will. I'm getting quite bored though. Two things I do have to address is you saying you didn't justify the racism. "However in this particular case, I don't have a problem with anyone of Stevenson's criminal background being called names". What was the point of this statement exactly? The other is your comment about it not being subjective. "Kovalev was out." I was saying that this statement was subjective. It's not a fact.

Also you made a post about how you don't post on this therad much. You sure do post a lot to me and argue with me. I doubt I ever initiate contact with you. What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this argument? Are you bored? Do you want me to admit something? I mean let's just find out what your motive is so we can end this.

 

Kovalev was winning the fight and your boy went down and speed balled his nuts

 

Kovalev has always had glass balls. He's terribly vulnerable to any fighter who can land good repeated heavy shots to his testicles.

 

"What was the point of this statement exactly?"
To show my clear distaste for Stevenson

"You sure do post a lot to me and argue with me."
A single argument with a low of posts isn't the same as a lot of arguments with that poster. I think we've done this once in the past as well? I don't remember. I know CST's views, Rumsfields, Shockmasters, and MVC's. Outside of that posters tend to blend together for me. Sorry. I don't have a vendetta against you. But starting this argument with you as somebody I know is active on the forum is more productive than than some random who holds similar views but I've don't remember ever seeing. I don't know if you expected a better reason than that but there isn't one. This argument has gone on for a while but at least you've heard out my side of the argument. You can disagree with me all day long but I can't hate you for that. There are plenty of people on here who would have turned a blind eye and resorted to ad hominem arguments a long time ago. Those are the people I don't reply to. Consider it a complement?

 

Sorry, but that doesn't fly. You basically accepted the racism towards Stevenson which clearly does have an impact on the black boxing community. This is common sense. Please don't try and play dumb and act like you're oblivious to the fact that Kovalev's racism towards one black man does not have an affect on the whole community. You claimed that I was pushing a narrative which I was not. You either were justifying Kovalev's actions or you're just extremely ignorant.

I don't think you have a vendetta against me at all. I just find that every time we talk you're defending a EE fighter. So you obviously have an agenda.

Anyways if you want to end this argument let's be specific. What exactly do you want me to answer that I have no answered already? Let's keep this on topic with very little questions or it's just going to go on for 5 years.