It's strange to see how many fellers here dislike Kelly Pavlik...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 168 lbs, May 9, 2008.


  1. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    I don't dislike him, I in fact have an abundance of respect for him but this still does not make me blinkered enough to put him in the top ten pound for pound.

    He may get there one day if he surprises me.
     
  2. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I underestimated Pavlik up until his rematch with Taylor and I'm not jumping on the 'Taylor was overrated' bandwagon which alot of Pavlik's detractors seem to have seized upon.

    But despite all that, I'd like to see him step up and face Kessler. Pavlik is one of the only boxers I have done a complete U-turn in judgement about but before I'd call him world class I want to see him against Kessler.

    Pavlik is the best middleweight in a good (but not great) division.
     
  3. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely, 100%, Incorrect!
     
  4. BOOKA

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    Pavlik is the kind of fighter boxing needs.


    Goes into every round with the aim of trying to knock his opponent out, not just win the round.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This is the type of idiot I was talking about in my earlier posts.
     
  6. 168 lbs

    168 lbs Guest

    Valero has a K-O percentage of 100%. Guess that makes him the best SFW in history, huh, feller?
     
  7. 168 lbs

    168 lbs Guest

    Still see no reason to hate on e.g. Valero just because some people think he is the best ever.
     
  8. MGUNZ48

    MGUNZ48 MGunz Full Member

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    The love/hate thing for boxers is a complicated story. Kelly Pavlik and Hatton are very popular, and hated for the same reason. Its because most boxing fans can see themselves in them (at least a little). More so than guys like Ali, PBF, RJJ, SRL, etc. Many fustrated fighters like myself watch guys like Pavlik, Hatton, Duddy, Cotto, Gatti, etc. and think you know I could have been that guy, if I just dedicated myself, had a better trainer, gave up beer and *****, blah, blah, blah. The real story is that those guys are 100x more talented than 99% of the rest of us, but because they seem like regular people we seem to indentfy with them. So we pull for them, but get jealous when they do too good?
    I hope Pavlik holds on to his title for a few more years, beats all the guys out there, retires undefeated, rich and with all his brain cells. Because that is what I would have hoped for myself.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love watching Pavlik but i can understand how some can hate him due to some of his overzealous fans. That's what made me hate Calzaghe.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Good post!:good

    I think this explains it. I agree though that it's silly to hate Pavlik because of his fans.
     
  11. TFFP

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    It's a matter of counterbalancing the delusional nutthuggery. Somebody has to do it, otherwise this forum would be full of people accepting Pavlik beats everyone up to 175, and that he clearly should be compared to the likes of Hagler and Monzon, which is bull****

    Some people are also bitter he gets overrated for beating a fraud like Taylor, its as if Taylor's fraudulent work has actually worked to the point he's considered an A class win

    Apart from that, I think he's fun to watch, a nice enough guy, and a good B+ level fighter
     
  12. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Care to name a few?? I can think of about 5 or 6. Yeah compared to you Calzombies, we're really in mass numbers.
     
  13. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I'll ask you the same buddy, point em' out. I'll deal with em' for ya.
     
  14. ThePlugInBabies

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    because we dislike inferior specimens unsuitable for breeding with.
     
  15. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And someone has to counterbalance your nuthuggery of Calzaghe and Kessler. :good Otherwise, everyone in here would think that Calzaghe and Kessler would've beaten anyone at 168 or 175. :nut