It's strange to see how many fellers here dislike Kelly Pavlik...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 168 lbs, May 9, 2008.


  1. Hermit

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    Cal was OK until Bhop got him revved up. :( I ended up disliking him more than Bhop towards the end. That took some doing.....
     
  2. joe the great

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    Mayweather-Pryor and Pryor-Hatton would've been a war. Leonard wouldn't fight him because he had bigger money bouts. I am not sure who would've won but at 147 I would slightly favor Leonard.
     
  3. 168 lbs

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    I have me Hawk over Leonard at any weight, he was that good. Hatton's just not skilled enough. Different league.
     
  4. Hermit

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    Ah, but THAT is the answer to the thread. :yep
     
  5. Hermit

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    Look Palle screwed up. Miscalculated. Do you really believe a figher at Kessler's level is afraid of any other top fighter?
     
  6. TFFP

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    He got at least 2 gift decisions, and a debatable one, due to him being marketable

    His reign at middleweight is amongst the most fraudulent of all-time.
     
  7. 168 lbs

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    Even if that were true, how does that make him a fraud? And what the hell does a "fraudulent reign" mean?
     
  8. A Rock

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    pavliks punch will not carry up to HW. he'd be an idiot to try to fight any higher than LHW
     
  9. TFFP

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    Because to me being 'undisputed middleweight champion' actually means something, given its history, from Monzon to Hagler to Hopkins. It devalues that to have a guy getting gift decisions

    A fraudulent reign is exactly what it says on the tin.
     
  10. 168 lbs

    168 lbs Guest

    Why is he a fraud, though? Still didn't touch on that. Sound as if you're not sure, feller...
     
  11. Hermit

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    And you know this how?
     
  12. TFFP

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    I've just told you exactly why his boxing career is fraudulent, because despite that he is still held in high regard by a number of apologists. I'm sure hes a nice guy though...

    If you want to be obtuse and keep asking me over and over again thats your call, it's just an opinion...every mother****er has one
     
  13. A Rock

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    he rocked Jermain Taylor at 160 but didnt have the same power at 166. plus hes really big for 160 and anyone in the top 10 at LHW will have just as much if not more power than him.
     
  14. 168 lbs

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    You got that right, feller!
     
  15. Hermit

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    When Pavlik moves up, he puts on weight accordingly. He has an insane work ethic that allows him to make 160, so what makes you think he doesn't add muscle as he goes up? One thing to speculate, another to state them as if factual.