It's weird how its become a foregone conclusion that Abraham would have won by KO

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  1. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They all seem to be pushing an agenda.

    Not one of them mentions the fact that Abraham was given preferential treatment when the doctors examined his cut and literally wiped the blood from his face and treated the cut giving him a full minute to recover allowing him to get his second wind. Or when AA was knocked into the ropes and it was not ruled a KD.

    They also don't acknowledge that it was Dirrell that was winning the 11th round, prior to the foul.

    In boxing anything is possible, but not everything is probable. The likelihood is that Dirrell would have won via UD. Those odds would have been considerably higher than than an Abraham TKO/KO.

    Dirrells legs weren't gone, he was still employing effective lateral movement evading AA and countering well. When AA cornered him he tied him up. It was pretty clear that he slipped on the logo and was subsequently fouled.

    It was said before and I'll say it again, AD success in the fight was not independent to AA's foul. It was simply a manifestation of it AD success.
    AA was frustrated and in the most cowardly fashion hit a man while he was down. Was Dirrell faking it? No. He had no reason to. The foul itself was blatant enough that a DQ was warranted. Abraham is a big puncher so a clean shot to a defenseless man on the ground is more than enough to convince me that he had him out. I mean if Dirrell can take a clean blow from Arthur Abraham while defenseless on the ground and decide to fake it. Then I'm certain that he would be able to take whatever AA had to offer in the 11th and 12th and win the decision anyway.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    the ref had no business asking the doctor to look at Abraham's cut in the first place. It was obvious he could continue. Its almost as if the ref wanted the fight to get stopped on a cut that was ruled a punch even though the replay showed it was a headbutt.

    Dirrell never knocked Abraham into the ropes. He pushed him with his wrist and forearm. Watch it again its really obvious.

    Neither Dirrell nor Abraham did anything in the first minute of that 11th round. If Dirrell was winning it, it was ever so slightly and not indicative of how the rest of the round was gonna go. Especially knowing Abraham's style. He gives away the early portion of the round very often.
     
  3. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course the ref has authority to ask for the doctor to look at any fighters cut when he's the 3rd man in the ring. Its his job to do so. That is how fighters get stopped on cuts. There's no conspiracy theory when the ref uses his discretion.

    Judah was an even fight on 2 of the judges scorecards and behing a point one of cards when he lost against Clottey. Was the ref trying to stop the fight then?

    Now if in fact it was acknowledged that the cut was caused by a headbutt, the protocol is that you go to the scorecards after round 4 which favors Dirrell in either scenario.

    The KD was a counter left from the southpaw stance. It holds as much legitimacy that the Abraham's KD holds. Either way, lets say for sake of discussion they count the KD. He's still behind. It changes nothing.

    As for Round 11, Dirrell was winning it. And based on the previous rounds it's likely that he would have continued to dominate the round. To say that Abraham was going turn things around after giving away the early portion of the round is a discredit to Andre Dirrell. I don't think Abraham planned on being 6-7 points behind where he really needs KO to win. Dirrell had something to do with that.

    Abraham was lucky that he found a way out of the fight because it will be a lot easier to take that excuse back to Germany than to go home after losing a very one sided fight. Dirrell was on his way to a wide UD.
     
  4. NutHuggers

    NutHuggers New Member Full Member

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    AA is dangerous at any point in the fight. But he had done nothing up to the point of the stoppage to make me believe he was going to pull out a KO in the final round. Dirrell was outclassing him and really fighting well the whole time.