***Ivan Calderon in Ring Mag P4P top 10(NO HATTON)***

Sorry but, You should probably add Ivan Calderon under your "Super Naturals" list, because he easily fits the bill

 

He KO the guy who nobody wants to fight at 112 in Darchinyan. Arce, all Japs and Thais Ducks Darchinyan till Donaire end the Myth. Now all Chups in 112 are all ducking Donaire. Then look at his skill set in the Ring. That's P4P material.

Donaire is in the same Position as JMM right before his 1st fight with Pac. JMM is the avoided one. but Donaire already proved himself by KOing Darchinyan. Now JMM is a consistent top 10 p4P. There's a reason why JMM and Donaire are being avoided. They're P4P material.

Donaire dominates in his last 2 fights with KOes. Mijares just wins on points by SD. Maldonado gets a Draw with Mijares. Donaire dominates and KO Maldonado. That's enough argument.

 

:yikes :yikes :yikes i feel both should not be ranked although i feel DOnaire is a better fighter then mijares

 

dam you actually make sense. oh **** im turning pinoy :shock: :shock: :good

 

So since Montiel KO'd maldonado in 3, and has a better win in Castillo than anything on Donaires resume, Montiel should also be top 10 p4p.

Also, are you comparing darchinyan to pac?:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Great to see Calderon FINALLY recognised. Wtf is Ol' Popkins still doing on this list. Hopefully Hopkins retires soon, and Pacman is definitely No1 now for me.

 

alot of people give this guy **** on here but this actually does make alot of sense:yep

 

Hell no he doesn't. Nice response by the way, I'll assume I won the debate.:yep

 

:happy :happy I couldn't wrote it any better!!! :happy :happy :happy

 

I told everyone that Ivan Calderon should have the number 10 spot not Hatton

In the last post Hatton had the number 10 spot

 

Donaire didn't dominate Darchinyan, he KOed him with a sneaky left hook, the rounds were 2-2 up until the KO and Darchinyan was looking like he was gaining on him fast, then the left hook lands and it's over, don't twist things.

Let me also correct you here, Mijares dominated Navarro and Munoz, dominated Munoz badly at that and the SD's were pure bull**** scores, evidently showcasing corruption. There is no footage of the draw against Maldonado, with the historical bad scores against Mijares, I wouldn't trust that it was truly a draw until we get some evidence, the scores were strange anyway, 114-114, 115-115, 118-115(Mij), that's indicating incompetent judging right there from the start.

So aside from your boxrec statistics, you have no argument, what a surprise.

Mijares is the unified 115 pound champion, having stopped Kawashima brutally to gain the WBC, utterly brutalising Arce, dominating Navarro and then dominating Munoz for the WBA strap. He's made 7 title defences of his WBC and all have been great performances.

Donaire KTFO Darchinyan, stopped Maldonado(a shot one at that)in 8 in a one sided performance.

Donaire should not even be ranked over Montiel, who recently KOed Castillo in 4 and KOed Maldonado in 3, having a much easier time than the amatuerish Donaire.

 

lol I conceded, but doesn't stop me from believing Calderon is a ****ing unbelievable talent, At least more than you recognize him sir :smoke

 

Hopkin's is too High he's 2/3 in his last five fight's.
Hatton doesn't have a marquee win for 3 year's and deserve's to drop so although i like the guy he's got some work to do!
Cotto and Pavlic should be higher imo 4 and 5 at the very least

 

cazares was the ring champion who beat dieppa the same dieppa that school Solis, but manage to geat a blind judge that scored the fight a draw, the other twoo mangage to scored the fight good 118-110. By the way Calderon manage to beat Diepa too.

 

Never did I say that he wasn't a top talent, with excellent skill. I merely said that he's not on level with guys who have schooled much better fighters than he even has to face right now.