I've beaten Betty to it!!!

Was it the ref that knocked Hatton out?

His performance early on against mayweather showed that he was. His performance against Cotto early on proved that he was. Zab's issue is that he has no mental stability and can't cope with adversity.

He was then and, by the time he faced Hatton, it was obvious he had slipped. I couldn't give a **** about the ref, really - he got beat fair and square, but a year previous and Hatton would have taken a serious beating from Tyszu and lost.

Tyszu's failure to fight again makes it impossible to accurately judge - if he'd performed near to his old standard in a return fight, then ok - but his subsequent retirement tells me that HE realised he'd slipped against hatton.

That doesn't diminish a great victory for Hatton it just puts it in some perspective.

You guys seem to have trouble recognising a perfectly cogent argument.

 

So how the **** is he an elite fighter then? I would say mental toughness is one of the top criteria? Otherwise hes just got potential talent?

 

That's a fair point - perhaps I need to refer to it as having to do with physical ability rather than mental. I don't think Tyszu's mental strength had diminished, but his responses weren't as sharp as they had been.

But you're right, the psychological aspect comes into it and that exposes Ricky badly - he came apart when the ref was on his case against Mayweather according to him.

 

I've heard the term "elite fighter" used in some very strange ways on ESB when people are trying to justify/ support an argument but this is one of the funniest.

 

Yer, you know im not even sure I know what elite means?

 

Thats the beauty of it, it can mean whatever you want it to mean. If Marvin Hagler fought these days his career would be criticised because he was only 1-1 fighting "Elites" and they were both natural Welterweights.

People seem to use it when a boxer they don't like has "only" beaten world class opposition.