I've seen a lot of discussion about Vitali Klitschko lately...

My point exactly.

 

They made their stats by beating unranked fighters and some of the worst heavyweight top ten I can remember. Neither has a signature win , neither beat anyone special. One quit in a fight he was winning and the other was kod by 3 journeymen.
Briggs, Gomez and Rahman were prime?

 

Wiped the floor with them? Based on what? Because he beat Donald and Bean?

For a start, Botha was better than anyone Vitali beat in his first career.

Secondly an old Holyfield fought Lewis twice and didn't have his face ripped off.

In fact, Mendozas own words, he had the fight 7-5 to Lewis. That means old Holyfield won more rounds against Lewis than Vitali did.

 

Explains why Vitali fought nobody of note in the 7 years as a pro, up until the Lewis fight.

Well, there was Byrd.

 

Herbie Hide wasn't a bad win. But nevertheless he should have been stepping up more around his 24th or 25th fight. Hell Lewis fought a 35-0 ranked contender in only his 15th bout and won a title in his 23rd.

 

There is no one I see beyond Wlad/Tyson/Lewis that would pose great threat to him. The Baers/Carneras and willards simply don't compare to him,its not even close to the level Vitali was for a huge fighter.Had Buddy Baer continued using his jab and controlling Louis on the outside he may have won,those guys simply did not have the basics of a Vitali caliber fighter,they were brawlers who had little defensive skills. the highest level of what?Anyone without power other than ali has a slight chance to out point him,thats about it.

 

Hide was a c level fighter at best, a poor mans David Haye.

Why fight Byrd when Ike was available in 99? Vitali had been pro for 3 years by then.

Normally, young prospects who genuinely want to make a name for themselves call out the big names and at least try to get some fights done.

 

Could have done a lot but didn't do ****. That's the reality.

He could have been gunning for real fights to prove himself.

James Toney, Evander Holyfield, John Ruiz, Ike Ibeabuchi, David Tua, Hasim Rahman, Nikolay Valuev, David Haye, Alexander Povetkin, Ruslan Chagaev, Byrd rematch, Mike Tyson, Oleg Maskaev, Michael Grant, Shannon Briggs, Eddie Chambers, Andrew Golota...

Some ducked him sure, but to think he couldn't get a single one of these guys in a ring is unbelievable.

 

Why didn't Tyson fight foreman instead of Holmes? The assumption you THINK Vitali took the easy path to avoid someone is beyond ignorant.

 

Because when Tyson fought Holmes, Foreman wasn't even around you idiot.

You got any evidence of Vitalis team ever sitting down with anyone to negotiate a fight?

No? I thought so.

 

Buddy wasn't a refined fighter,both brothers were brawlers with sloppy style when aggressive. Buddy is **** compared to klitchkos that's a given we can see why and how the era fighters fought.They were top of the food chain in their time but that means little in modern ones.They simply would get eaten up by the better bigger fighters that followed and that's not even counting Vitali.


Not sure what Willard means?He was old and out of retirement on 3 year out of the ring. Louis at 200 pounds and downed by far lesser fighter"Gallento' and k.od by Shmelling "PAST" prime isn't a good sell.