I've watched both Pac vs JMM and Pac vs Cotto in slowmo.

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    And honestly I don't see the massive improvement everyone is talking about. Take away the size factor and JMM at 130 shits all over Cotto at 145. Pac is not really a better p4p fighter today than he was back then, regardless of what Roach is saying. Cotto was just an easier puzzle to solve.

    If you pay attention really you see Pac's skills are not that much different. Everything he did against Cotto he was already able to do when he fought Marquez except it was just harder to pull off (he still managed to pull of some sick stuff)

    maybe Pac's p4p power is better at 140 than 130 because he isn't killing himself to make weight, but if you only take skills into consideration, I think he's pretty much the same. Which is not a knock on him obviously cause both Pac and JMM were amazing in that fight.
     
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  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :lol: ...You need to get laid mate.
     
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  3. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    maybe you should try super slow-mo this time.

    Pac has improved all around-doesnt mean hes a completely different fighter. Hes still the same 5'6 Filipino
     
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  4. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Could me more about his p4p speed , Marquez was probably used to facing faster guys than Cotto was ....
     
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  5. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Was he still fast at slowmo :lol:?
     
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  6. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i need to watch and see what your talking about.... you could be right
     
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  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Although you might think how the **** can someone who watches fights in slowmo get laid... I actually had sex this morning :D\

    oh and I have a job too. A good one btw
     
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  8. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac's right hand, his much more versatile with it, his footwork is better, balance, even ducking punches.
     
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  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Are you Manny's publicist?
     
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  10. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    I think it may just not be a great 2 fights to compare. Cotto isn't a hard guy to figure out. Jab, move forward, jab, move forward, combo, move forward. VEry good at a lot of things, not great at any.

    JMM is a nasty counter puncher, and can fight off the back foot. This has seemed to give Pac trouble (about the only thing to).


    But I agree, he (Pac) seems stronger, and was already a great fighter. I think he still gets most of his power from his left. I think he still lacks solid D. I think he is still fast as hell. NOthing new, but he didn't really need to do much new anyway.
     
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  11. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Are you the guy in charge of picking the pieces of Linares shattered glass jaw?
     
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  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    dude, I watch alot of fights in slowmo. IMO best way to watch a fight between two elite fighters. At that level these guys really see each other's movements in slowmo and their reaction times are so fast that when you watch it in real-time its hard to see what they are really doing.
     
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  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    You're undeniably a *******, but one of the better ones that I can have a discussion with. Genuine question, don't you ever get the urge to ram your fist down the throats of both Scatterbrain and Enzo? Seriously now.
     
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  14. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    His D is really underrated. He got tagged a few against Cotto but not much. You'll be hard pressed to see him getting hit by more than 5-10 power shots per round.
     
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  15. BOXING/MMAFAN

    BOXING/MMAFAN The Fan Full Member

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    just wanna say i fkn love that pic wit the chick n the colored sox iv seen that pic so many times before never get tired of it :cool:
     
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