IYO, who else in heavy history could have destroyed frazier in 73?

When bodies get hit hard they move. I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand.
When a football/rugby player collides with another player you can see them leave the ground and fly for several feet.
When elite heavyweight punchers land their best blows opponents can come of the floor momentarily.
It's basic physics.
Honestly, I'm not sure how anyone can say it's "impossible".

It's not even hard to relate to. I don't think it's any less believable than, say, a human being able to lift a 200kg barbell off the ground and above head in one motion.
I find that far more incredible but it definitely happens.

 

I think a little too much is being made about Fraizer's condition prior to the Foreman fight. Let's say for a moment everything is true and he wasn't training right or properly preparing for the fight. That would have to do with his timing, his stamina etc etc. It wasn't going to effect his chin. Frazier always had a solid chin with good recuperative abilities. He wasn't stopped prior. Sure, if the fight went a long time and Frazier gassed, poor training could be blamed. However, that was the case, he was simply waxed.

 

Destroy Joe, ? Sonny Liston maybe Tyson

 

cant believe u have the evidence and your still spouting this..Theres a massive delay in frazier getting hit and him jumping mid air like hes taking a knee....IT IS IMPOSSIBLE...The barbell theory doesn't belong in this conversation either...no gauge what so ever... might as well be talking bowling

 

Not saying it's impossible. Just that it didn't happen here. That gif has done nothing to change my view.

 

I'm not making any claims about the Foreman-Frazier knockdown, I'm disputing the statement that "it is impossible" for a heavyweight to lift another heavyweight off the floor with a punch. It IS possible and it happens.
(The barbell example was just an example of something that I personally find a lot more incredible/amazing.)

Fair enough.

That particular knockdown looks odd to me too. I don't have an absolute explanation/description for it either.
I'm not even sure what debating it is supposed to prove either. Definitely a very hard punch landed there, I think we all agree.

 

For the record, it looks like a delay to me too.

But I'm not sure I've ever seen a fighter "jump mid air" to "take a knee" either. Usually a fighter just takes a knee, ie. he lowers himself onto the knee. To jump up with the deliberate intention of landing on one's knee seems a waste of time, energy and positively stupid.

 

he was scrambled imo...He exaggerated the move as a result

 

That punch was George's money shot. I would venture seeing how wide open Joe was and the velocity of the punch and having seen George in person hitting a heavy bag with similar punches that not many in hwt history were hit that hard. Titanic blow. Surprised Joe was able to get right up after.

I own red 8 oz Everlast gloves exactly from that time period. My father bought them for me but they are so hard I never used them. Any punch does damage with them on. Honestly could not imagine a George Foreman hitting me with them on his fists.

 

I could, i honestly, honestly could......and it brings a smile to my face.
Nothing personal you understand.

 

Possibly Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers, or Mac Foster.

 

I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that he went the distance with Tyson.

 

I had no idea that there are serious boxing fans who really think that Foreman lifted Joe Frazier in the air with his uppercut. Unreal.

 

Other than the Walcott rematch, the best fighter Marciano ever took out early was...

 

Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock, Lewis, Wlad Klitchko, Mike Tyson ,Liston, Cooney Tua, Ibeuabuchi, Holyfield, Joshua, off the top of my head, all had the ability to put Frazier's lights out fast.

Maybe some would some wouldn't but many guys could punch that he never faced so what are we really going on besides Foreman that he had to stand up too? Oscar Bonevena?

Frazier in 73 was also bloated overweight BC he was a 200/205 pound fighter....I think its not hard to figure out what happens against the guys I listed.