J.Miller v Frank Bruno (prime)

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I watched a K-1 bout featuring Miller posted by a youtube channel called boxing physique and not only did Miller lose but he looked completely unskilled also.
     
  2. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you don't watch K-1 and follow it then you are not knowledgeable of whose who and how good some of those are...they throw brutal Muay Thai kicks and knees no elbows or clinching it is not nice like ISKA....it is not uncommon to see a guy with a few fights fight a guy with over 100 in the Grand Prix tournaments.....Mirko Crocop is a top tier K-1 fighter losing to him or having a veteran like that is not a bad thing....especially not getting KO'd by someone who kicks harder than George Foreman punches. No doubt had Miller not been a multiple sport athlete he may have been even better and won the Grand Prix which is about as good as you can get in in kickboxing.


    Kickboxing career[edit]
    Miller began kickboxing at the age of 14. His break-out performances as a kickboxer came while representing the New Jersey Tigers in the World Combat League in the 2007-08 season. On May 3, 2008, he defeated K-1 veteran Pat Barry at the WCL Eastern & Western Conference Finals in San Antonio, Texas, the biggest feat of his career at that point.[70] Miller had an amateur kickboxing record of 14-0, 7 KO's. [71]

    Following the WCL's demise, Miller went on to rack up a 19-0 (8 KOs) record as a professional kickboxer on New York's heavyweight Muay Thai scene while also turning professional as a boxer.[72][73]

    His exploits won him admirers, and in 2012, after he knocked out Radu Spinghel in New York City, he was recruited by K-1, historically the world's premier kickboxing organization.[74]

    In his promotional debut, he went up against mixed martial arts knockout artist Jack May at the K-1 World Grand Prix 2012 in Los Angeles on September 8, 2012 with a place at the 2012 K-1 World Grand Prix at stake.[75][76] Miller was able to knock May out with an uppercut in the first round to advance to the K-1 World Grand Prix 2012 in Tokyo Final 16 on October 14, 2012 where he was drawn against Arnold Oborotov.[77][78] Although Oborotov caused some problems with his low kicks, Miller was able to dominate with his superior boxing ability. He cruised to a unanimous decision win after sending the Lithuanian to the canvas in round one.[79]

    At the K-1 World Grand Prix 2012 Final on March 15, 2013 in Zagreb, Croatia, he battled Mirko Cro Cop in the quarter-finals.[80] The panel of judges all scored the bout for Cro Cop by unanimous decision, handing Miller his first professional loss and sending him out of the tournament.[81][82]

    He signed with SUPERKOMBAT in August 2013.[83] Replacing Sergei Kharitonov who withdrew from the fight due to a finger injury,[84] Miller rematched Mirko Cro Cop at Glory 17: Los Angeles in Inglewood, California on June 21, 2014.[85] He lost by unanimous decision.[86][87][88] Miller had a professional kickboxing record of 21-2, 9 KO’s.

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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    That's the only MMA fight I have seen of Miller's, he took some huge leg kicks to the body without reacting noticeably.
     
  4. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gerrie Coetzee was puny?
    He was 6'3' fought at around 220 pounds and had an 81" reach.
    He was a couple of years past prime in this fight, but that win for Bruno is better than anything on Miller's "stellar" resume.
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Miller is an inch taller than Bruno.lol
     
  6. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Spinal! Full Member

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    Bruno smashes Miller to bits with his ramrod straights down the pipe.
     
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  7. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty hard to get a gauge on Jarrell just yet. He's by and large untested. Joshua is a massive first up test which I'll be interested to see. One thing is for sure, Miller has the utmost confidence in his abilities, whether thats enough remains to be seen.

    Bruno for all his limitations, was legitimately powerful and strong and had a ram rod left jab, something that Miller lacks (along with quality head movement) from the limited footage I've seen.

    That's enough for me to favour Frank here but Miller is a work in progress and could be better than we think. He's a massive man and an engaging personality who I hope to see do well. As I do Joshua, Wilder, Fury, Whyte and Parker. Really enjoying the heavyweight division at present.
     
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  8. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s all fair comment.
    I’ve said so far that i’m not overly impressed by Miller.
    However when a fighter really steps up sometimes it emerges that he shows how good he really is.
     
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  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    mller is the kind of bum that bruno flattened in his first 10 fghts, not sure why you start a thread on first 10 fights bum vs a champion
     
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  10. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed mate.

    I didn't rate Tyson Fury at all until the Klitschko win (and reinforced by the Wilder fight). Yet I now think he's just a damn good boxer with some impressive physical dimensions and a tough nights work for anyone.

    You just don't really know until a fighters level of competition steps up.
     
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  11. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am guessing you are joking. That was a massive punch right on the button.

    Regardless, I am picking Bruno by KO. Miller does not have the power to take Frank out of his game.
     
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  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Miller has decent skills, top work rate, fast hands, top size, and has shown a sturdy chin when hit. While his power is nothing special, he can grind on people. I actually think Miller has a good chance to upset Joshua later in the fight!

    We'll see.
     
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  13. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All legitimate opinion.
     
  14. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His size and workrate and strength is freaky for a man his size he's a tank.....he has a huge barrel chest which is most times a sign of deep lungs and a sturdy rub cage.....I suspect the reason he can fight at that rate and his muscles don't really fatigue
     
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  15. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I guess the Joshua fight will answer a lot of questions.

    If he somehow beat Joshua, then I'd probably pick Miller to do the trick against Bruno. If he gets blasted out early. I doubt many will still pick him.