Jabbing against southpaws

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by RDJ, Jan 29, 2009.


  1. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

    4,590
    2,227
    Nov 11, 2006
    Ah, aight, lemme now how things go..What you mean worthless, me saying that, or ol Ralphie?

    haha
     
  2. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

    13,158
    9
    Sep 27, 2005
    The latter, he never gives advice he just tells other people how clueless they are.
     
  3. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,963
    42
    Jul 21, 2004

    Actually, I think jabbing against southpaws is really useful. But yes, if you can be faster with your right hand, use it as a lead and a kind of probe that isn't as easy to see coming as a normal straight right, I would imagine it would land much more regularly. It works well for me even against right handers.
     
  4. Machiavelli

    Machiavelli The White Lion Full Member

    266
    0
    Jul 21, 2004
    Back on subject, have you tried jabbing after you throw the right? Either lead right, then follow up with the jab, or 1-2-1. I've found both can be effective ways of getting off your jab against the southpaw. Also, if you're adept enough at it, jab off the hook, too.
     
  5. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

    4,590
    2,227
    Nov 11, 2006
    Another thing, if he is throwing his jab a lot, slip to the outside and shoot your right hand, either upstairs or to the body, but you can dig to the body and follow up with a hook like this if you are quick...The opposite works for me, so..:-D
     
  6. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

    13,158
    9
    Sep 27, 2005
    Everyone thanks for the advice it has been very useful. Training starts in an hour so we'll see what I make of it :)
     
  7. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

    13,158
    9
    Sep 27, 2005
    We had a centralized training today, various gyms came to our gym, so it was very crowded and I only sparred one round. Perhaps Monday.
     
  8. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,352
    0
    Jan 11, 2007
    Did anybody see Urango vs. Ngoudjo? This was a classic match, not only between contrasting styles, but contrasting flaws in style. Urango is a southpaw with limited ability, but lots of heart. Ngoudjo has lots of talent, but found that at the early stages of his career he could win easily so he never fully developed his skills. It was obvious that Ngoudjo needed to keep Urango at the end of his jab given that he had the height and reach advantage. Why didn't he do it? He never learned how to impose his jab on an aggressive southpaw like Urango. How is it done? Jab and pivot, an old expression which has fallen into disuse. That is what a southpaw will do to you if you aren't careful. Calzaghe did a very good variation on that theme against Lacy. Of course this is all a question of style. Jab and pivot is something Ngoudjo could learn and put into practise if he was so inclined. Urango is to slow and too uncoordinated to even thing about things like that. However, despite all his deficiencies Urango has a better style than Ngoudjo. He knows his limitations and has figured out the best way to overcome them. As a southpaw he doesn't have an effective jab, but for him jabbing is not important inasmuch as he is too slow. What Urango should do is what he did, move his head a bit, bull his way in while throwing lots of hard shots. There is a good chance some of those shots will land and some of them did.
     
  9. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

    13,158
    9
    Sep 27, 2005
    Now that can be useful. Can you give an example of a fight in which it is done correctly?
     
  10. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

    4,590
    2,227
    Nov 11, 2006
    Decent post by Ralph, but unfortunately I didnt get to see that fight...Ill try and see it.
     
  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

    38,034
    91
    Nov 10, 2008
    like Ralph says Calzaghe-Lacy

    but Calzaghe does it to Lacy so jsut do it the other way round

    another example i just watched just now is Pryor against Arguello I know its 2 orthodox fighters but pryor jabs and pivots well.
     
  12. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,352
    0
    Jan 11, 2007


    Aaron Pryor did everything well. As I recall he only only lost about one fight, and it is hard to imagine how he would ever lose. The way he dismantled Alexis Arguello, himself a great fighter, was extraordinary. Arguello had both the height and reach advantage, yet Pryor easily neutralized it. Arguello was a great body puncher, but every time he tried it on Pryor he got hit with a combination. They had two fights and both of them are a must see for aspiring young boxers. These are two fights that Hermann Ngoudjo should have studied more carefully.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

    38,034
    91
    Nov 10, 2008
    yeh pryor was a brillaint fighter

    he lsot way after his prime after geting involved with drugs

    watching the first few round sof Arguello pryor i wondered how it could have lasted to the 14th just shows his stamina of both

    arguello was past it but still great
     
  14. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,606
    6
    Aug 15, 2006
    Chavez-Whitaker. Course the southpaw is the one to watch in this case.

    Also on a more general note I thought Clottey was doing a good job of implementing a strategy of taking apart the southpaw Judah, landing straight rights at will from round 3 and on.
     
  15. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

    20,834
    608
    Jul 11, 2006
    moove sharply to your left. always throw a jab even if it is to a southpaw or on the gloves. it loads up your reverse hand. just becuase it isnt landing doesnt mean it isnt effective.