Jack Blackburn or Cus D'amato...

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  1. MURK20

    MURK20 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who created the fiercest fighters in Louis and Tyson? I think Blackburn has a great understanding of boxing fundamentals but Cus' was more innovating.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti The Ad Wolgast of Googling Stuff Full Member

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    I think Blackburn's style was better rounded, whereas Cus's style, could be great, but pretty much only worked for a total freak of nature talent, though fun as hell to watch.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    I like Ray Arcel, training Duran, Armstrong and Tony Zale
     
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    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Damato knew his stuff but was better suited for amater boxing.
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that Blackburn was a bit more versatile, and perhaps did a bit more with the more mediocre talents.
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    It was Freddie Brown that really built Duran's skills.
    Arcel was more the strategist / mental guy.

    IMO Brown is the most overlooked trainer ever.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    I swear I've seen him more of a cut man tbh
     
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales Full Member

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    How so?
     
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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Not here for the fairy tales Full Member

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    Cus certainly seems to have made his name on a very small number of extraordinary physical talents but which mediocre talents did Blackburn carry to the promised land?
     
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    The Morlocks Boxing Addict booted Full Member

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    Cuyo Hernandez and Tito Lecture
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing booted Full Member

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    A lot of talent is learnt, would Louis have ben any good without his fundamentals? We saw what happened to Mike when he lost his ability to use D`amato`s teachings, a good fighter is a combo of great fundamentals and natural physical gifts.
     
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    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing booted Full Member

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    Tyson was far better as a pro than he was as an amateur.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like Blackburn. Awesome trainer.
     
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  14. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    I will say that Blackburn has insight on boxing Cus could never have, due to being a top fighter in his day. He knew what the stakes were like in true high level bouts, as he had been in them.

    Cus definitely was philosophically thoughtful, though.

    I always found it funny that Cus' two greatest boxers had a fragility to them. Patterson was mentally strong, but could be fragile physically in the ring. Tyson was as sturdy a fighter as you could get, but definitely had a mental / emotional weakness to him.
     
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