Jack Dempsey and The Color Line...

Let's play the game ......form every possible scenario to not give Dempsey credit for doing something completely unheard of for a hwt champion of the world.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

"You should be ashamed of yourself."

I know. My mother used to tell me that. The nuns in my grade school used to tell me that.

 

And Wills knocked him down by hitting him on the break .
Firpo was far from the condition he had been in to fight Dempsey, he was flabby and overweight for Wills..Those who watched the Wills v Firpo fight thought it exposed Wills as not good enough to beat Dempsey which is my point , not whether he deserved a chance.

 

Since when was " research " anything other than collating all the available material ( produced by others ) on a subject, studying, and revising it then compiling your own conclusion?

It is nothing more than the nature of infinity theory, which is, given an infinite number of monkeys, and an infinite number of typewriters they will eventually produce the complete works of Shakespeare.

Research books are simply a case of that particular author's example of that theory.

 

Yes it's completely unheard of for a heavyweight champion of the world to seek out a fight with his most dangerous challenger.

While we're at it, let's foist the blame for him not meeting said challenger onto absolutely everyone but him... his manager, his promoter, society, the Government, Jack Johnson, Wills himself. And all the experts said Jack would have won, so what does it matter anyway? An expert prediction is as good as a W on the resume.

Never mind that Dempsey himself openly stated on numerous occasions that he had no intention of fighting Wills anyway and freely admitted that by design one of the fight contracts was full of loopholes to enable them to wriggle out of it. And also ducked and dodged the second most deserving challenger of his reign. And happily fought for promoters other than Rickard when it suited him, split with Kearns when it suited him, ignored public opinion when it suited him, and defied the NYSAC when it suited him.

Who should be ashamed?

 

Not the job of the worlds hwt champion to act as a manager searching out promotors for a title defense. Not only was it not his job ......it was completely unheard of.

Very well known that Dempsey drew the color line and then recinded it and stated he would fight anyone including Wills.

 

"Dempsey . . . stated he would fight anyone including Wills."

That is what he said.

What he did was never fight Wills.

 

And the reason had nothing to do with Jack Dempsey. And this is all well known and understood the past 90 years.

 

It was the commission's fault. It was the Government's fault. It was the public's fault. It was Tex Rickard's fault. It was Doc Kearns' fault. It was Jack Johnson's fault. It was Harry Wills' fault. It was everyone's fault but Jack Dempsey's.

 

EM, BUT THEY DID SIGN FOR A FIGHT WHICH WAS CANCELED BECAUSE THE PROMOTOR COULD NOT COME UP WITH THE CONTRACTED FUNDS>>>
P.S. How convenient it is for people in your camp [perennial Dempsey deniers] to FORGET. How darn convenient !!!

 

Most accurately it was Harry Wills' manager's fault.

 

"Dempsey said he would fight anyone including Wills..." How many times did he also draw the color line and state categorically that he WOULD NOT fight Wills. Thats the problem for Dempsey nuthuggers. He talked out of both sides of his mouth just like a politician. Its an old game. Tell your constituents what they want to hear even if its a lie and then redirect. You can bank on 50% of the populace being dumb enough to believe you. Welcome to the 50% Perry.

 

It would be Dempseys fault if he fought a challenger and lost since that was his job. It's the managers job in conjunction with promotors, commissions and local govt to make and or allow a fight to occur. I fully understand the differences here And I am at a loss as to why you don't see the difference.

 

How convenient is it to forget that those contracts had to be signed or Dempsey's title would be stripped. How convenient is it to forget that the promoter who "couldnt come up with the funds" was one of Dempsey's best friends. How convenient was it that it allowed Dempsey the wiggle room he needed to negotiate a fight with Tunney that scheduled for within two weeks of the fight he supposedly signed with Wills. Id say it was damn convenient for Dempsey.