Jack Dempsey and The Color Line...

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  1. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Add to the list that Fairy has to watch it in ****py pixelated youtube format and I can watch an HD transfer of the original film and clearly see the low blows... Nevermind that the vast majority of newspaper men present RINGSIDE saw them as well. But of course a couple of deluded Dempsey fanboys arent going to see him doing anything wrong. How could they. They have their heads so far up his ass that actually seeing him do anything other than digest his food is impossible.
     
  2. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your a salesman not a media engineer. It would not matter in any event as viewing the KO on YouTube is very clear. None of those three right hands to the body were low. Anyone who watches the video can see you are a complete liar. You keep customers with that kind of disposition?
     
  3. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No issue from me that Dempsey was a much better fighter than Sharkey. Sharkey hit Dempsey with his best shots and couldn't stop him for more than a few seconds from coming forward. Sharkey also foolishly from the beginning fought Dempsey's fight, choosing to slug it out on the inside.

    Dempsey was inactive, but he shows on film the same easy to hit weakness against Brennan and Firpo and that was years earlier.

    But he certainly had courage and could take it.

    "coming on"--hard to say. Watching the fight carefully, the pattern is set in the first round and goes pretty much through the sixth. Dempsey took some heavy leather in the sixth, and there were ringside reporters who thought he was ready to go, but they obviously underestimated his resilience.
     
  4. Perry

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    Dempsey was coming on. He was killing Sharkey to the body as the fight progressed. Some reporters had him leading Sharkey due to his aggressiveness.
     
  5. mcvey

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    I've put Sharkey's words verbatim, in a post taken from a taped interview in 1971.

    " I'd been getting punches below,and then the last one hurt so much,I just went to tell the referee,"tell him to keep em up ",and then I got it and that was that.
    I turned to say to the referee "tell him to keep the punches up",he hit me with a left hook.I got knocked out". " He was a perpetual motion,kept punching and punching.If there was anything open in the direction he was punching,he would hurt you".

    Jack Sharkey 1971.
    The idea of a jumped up, pompous little tw*t like you ,"knocking out the teeth "of the local drinkers in my pub is hilarious.

    It has 3 ex boxers,[ one a pro] 2 cage fighters,[ one my stepson], and 2 guys who "do the doors in the clubs" as regulars.
    Plus assorted locals that can, "hold their hands up".
    The landlord, a really nice guy is also a martial arts expert ,full contact Tae Kwon Do

    I doubt you have ever had a street fight in your life Mr Arrogant.

    Sharkey was ko'd by a left hook to the jaw, of that there is absolutely no doubt. Sharkey says so, Dempsey says so ,and the referee says so.

    Only God Almighty Steve Compton disagrees .

    Tell me, what's the view like up your rectum?
     
  6. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "some reporters"

    No offense, but what did the ref and judges say on the official scoring?

    I haven't been able to find the official scoring anywhere. I found a thread from another board, and one fellow claimed he had seen the official scoring which had Sharkey winning 5 out of the first 6 rounds, losing only the 3rd.

    But I have no idea if that fellow is accurate.

    Anyone know what the official scoring was?

    It was probably the type of fight in which the scoring would vary as Dempsey was scoring to the body and Sharkey with flashier punches to the head.
     
  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny thing is the film evidence in no way supports Sharkeys claim. He was hit extremely hard on the beltline YES but there is no chance he was hit in the ***** as Krapton claims. No chance whatsoever.

    Sharkey had a level of history complaining about low blows. Several articles from that time refer to his "history" of claiming he was fouled due to body blows.
     
  8. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Aggressiveness was scored highly in those days. Dempsey was the aggressor in this fight.
     
  9. edward morbius

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    It wasn't like Sharkey was running, though.

    He did run against Schmeling, and won the decision despite being out boxed.
     
  10. mcvey

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    "So then I started fighting a stupid fight,which I should have fought the regular fight,boxing him and punching him" .
    Sharkey 1971.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    More like Dempsey landed some low blows and nailed the Boston Gob with a low shot. When Sharkey complained to the referee, Dempsey decided to nail him with a left hook to end the fight.

    You could argue this fight is a no-contest. Which reporters had Dempsey in the lead? He was taking a pasting at the hands of Sharkey.

    Now for a few statements.

     
  12. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First, now you read my mind, nah you are an arrogant bully, who loves to call people names if they disagree with your POV. That's what I react to. "Get over myself", look who's calling the kettle black, please. You and everybody posting deserve respect, like I said state your case without your snide and colorful remarks, you do make valid points, leave it there is all I am saying.
     
  13. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just plain crazy. The fight was filmed and readily available. The three body blows prior to the KO blow were not low and none of them were anywhere near Sharkeys *****. Sharkey was being killed to the body and he was hit with three consecutive body blows to the same area of his stomach. These same type of blows singularly felled Firpo in 1923. Must have hurt like hell. As I have posted the official Doctor assigned to this bout examined Sharkey after the bout and found no evidence of a foul punch being landed. You know why? None of those last three body blows were low.
     
  14. klompton2

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    Fairy, were those the same legal blows Dempsey landed while standing directly ever Firpo preventing him rising without being met by a punch? Lol. Its funny the lengths you will go to to protect your idol. Yeah Dempsey never fouled.

    And for the record the doctor made the point of saying that while he found no evidence of a foul he couldnt rule one out. Judge Mathison made the unusual decision to speak out against the referee and state categorically that Sharkey had been fouled. Most ringsiders agreed. The film shows it. Whether you can see it through your rose tinted goggles is irrelevent.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Dempsey was a rough dirty fighter, no question. Sharkey was no angel. Wills was pretty bad. The dirtiest of the era was Harry Greb.