Jack Dempsey belongs in the top 5 h2h at HW

reznick · Feb 18, 2016

RockysSplitNose said: ↑

Certain fighters have had certain performances where I can't really envisage anyone really surviving them - maybe not getting as splattered as the actual victim - but still not surviving - of these Dempsey's massacre of Willard is TOPS. Putting 'TOPS' in capitals was not a typo either - for me there isn't another performance by anyone that comes close in terms of thinking nobody survives that.

So yeah that peak Dempsey is top 5 for me but throw in things like the the Fulton destruction and that probably bolsters things even more for me and things like the Blitzing of guys like Bat Levinsky who'd not been KO'd in like his previous 200-odd fights etc and even the near knockout of a prime Gene Tunney who never came close other than at the hands of a seriously rusty Dempsey - this guy was clearly something very different
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Ted Spoon said: ↑

The criticism about Willard is too retrospective. The facts were he was the heavyweight champion, never before floored and the favourite despite the fact Dempsey had been mincing contenders. The manner in which some write about him paints him as this helpless farmer. Believe me, if he were he would have been gone with the first gut check. What he stood up to was unreal. All the rhetoric of what Foreman/Tyson would have done if there was no neutral corner rule does not wash. Dempsey had to be clever and work to bring the fight to its bloody conclusion. Evander Holyfield for instance would have been with the helpless farmer for much longer.

Criticism regarding Dempsey stems from frustration, that he sat on his crown, that he didn't fight Wills, but if we may briefly forget the legend and visualise those early destructions we would unanimously applaud a one-of-a-kind heavyweight. Dempsey had that nice combination of range and versatility, to hound the likes of Ali and threaten the likes of Foreman.
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Great posts! :good

BCS8 · Feb 19, 2016

LOL, damn, Dempsey gets some respect around here. And McVey isn't even in sight

lufcrazy · Feb 19, 2016

Seamus said: ↑

He was an incredible finisher. But mostly againSt questionable foes. I really wonder how he does against larger, modern boxer types.

But finish he could. No doubt.
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I agree with this word for word. Even agree with the use of punctuation.

lufcrazy · Feb 19, 2016

I've settled on no. I can't justify ranking him above Ali, Louis, Liston, Lewis, Holmes or Tyson.

foreman&dempsey · Feb 19, 2016

lufcrazy said: ↑

I've settled on no. I can't justify ranking him above Ali, Louis, Liston, Lewis, Holmes or Tyson.
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So you cant justify ranking him over sonny ****ing liston but you can over foreman? Does not exist a hw that dempsey could beat And forman could not .plus he destroys dempsey h2h

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