Jack Dempsey colorized clips

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mr.DagoWop, Jul 9, 2017.


  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    You can remove artifacts and scratches from old film.
    So does that mean removing artifacts is adding artifacts? It's silly talk.
    If you want to argue about the tradeoffs between additional compression versus post work, I'd love to hear your argument. Otherwise, you're grumbling about nothing.

    No. The absence of color is additionally inaccurate to wrong color.

    Can you give an example of how the Smithsonian used special agenda to color the film inaccurately?

    Humans see in color.
    Old cameras couldn't.
    This fixes that.
    Simple.

    Attempting to discredit a highly legitimate and respected industry practice because you don't like Dempsey is a feeble attempt to disparage something that most people immediately understand and enjoy.
     
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  2. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Incredibly good stuff...I enjoyed this no end and will watch again...thanks DagoWop!
     
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  4. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    his speed bag work looks a little sloppy.

    great find. I wish I could colourise stuff.
     
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  5. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "You are adding to the artifact when coloring, yes or no?"

    It looks more realistic to me.

    "inherently dishonest" "in the hands of someone agendized"

    I would rate this danger about on the level of getting eaten by a bigfoot.

    This point of view strikes me as somewhere between extreme paranoia and just weird.

    Selective editing would seem to me more likely to feed an agenda than colorizing and that can be done in black and white.
     
  6. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Man what the heck is wrong with you? Seems like everything posted on this site is far to simplistic for your life, maybe you should find another hobby or site to suite your needs!
     
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  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seamus only desire is to instigate.
     
  8. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    :clap:
     
  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Klompton raised similar concerns at length, shortly before he got booted.
     
  10. 70sFan

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    In addition to boxing, I also enjoy history of which many of the older clips are B&W, I often wonder what it would be like if they were in color or even what they would look like with today's HD cameras. Whilst I do enjoy the B&W clips, colorization gives another more modern perspective that is also enjoyable. Just my two cents.

    PS: Reznick, I thoroughly enjoy your youtube channel and your continuous contributions to this forum - Thank you
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I honestly cannot see what your problem is here.
     
  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    The guys who don't like Dempsey are the only ones who don't enjoy colorized and masterfully restored footage lol
     
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  13. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Well said.
    And thanks!
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I love Dempsey in action and these are wonderful imaginative works. But I do not label them as restorative. They are restoring nothing. They are imagining how the colors and shading and contrast played out. They are part artifact and part imaginative. This doesn't seem too hard a distinction to grasp.
     
  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Does it matter what we call them as long as we enjoy the results?
     
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