Jack Dempsey in the Klitschko era

Toney, who we all know started his career at middleweight was one of few to drop Holyfield and would have stopped him if not for the corner throwing in the towel. The same Holyfield that may have been 42 years old, but also boasts one of the best chins in boxing. For a bit of context, although make of it what you will, Hopkins survived 12 rounds against Kovalev, a more formidable puncher (slightly debatable) 7 years older. Although Holyfield may not have been in as good a shape as Hopkins, for me this is an interesting bit of insight
in how great fighters can scale divisions and be very successful as boxer and puncher.

 

Hopkins and Toney are anomalies but if anything they suggest that crafty, defensively skilled fighters who don't brawl or rely on physicality age and move up through the upper weight classes better than other types of fighters.

 

We will see about that. You're pretty sure of yourself considering Fury hasn't had a single loss yet.

 

That's EXACTLY my point, said in a different form.

I don't deny that Dempsey at his finest could probably stand a chance, and a good-sized chance at that, against anybody. But being a brawler at heavyweight is often a case of throwing the dice, especially if you are a smaller heavyweight. His very style would all but ensure that he would pick up abnormal wear and tear, and I very much doubt that he even makes it to the end of Wlad's resume without being hopelessly shot.

If we couple that to Dempsey's own spotty record against sub-par opposition IN HIS OWN TIME, it becomes clear that he would never be able to re-tread Wlad's career and go through it like "a hot knife through butter".

 

I just don't see how Carnera is on the same level

 

I might not have a complete picture of Fury the fighter, but I think that I have a good understanding of Fury the mind.

That is why I am going to stand on my prediction.

 

So who is going to beat him at heavyweight? you got Wilder beating him? Povetkin? Wlad in a rematch?

I am looking at the current crop of heavyweights and I don't see too many that can beat him. I think Joshua loses to him, maybe Joe Parker eventually will be a challenger.

 

:rofl
bob foster hits light years harder than golovkin h2h, ali hits miles harder than golovkin h2h, marciano with a jab did hit harder than golovkin with his best shot, foreman,tyson, lewis etc with a kiss did hit harder than golovkin with his very best shot

 

With some people it is not so much who as when.

Fury is a manic depressive, who is very inconsistent in his training habits.

While the title was outside his grasp he was hungry, but I do not think that he will remain consistent for long, now that he already has it.