Jack Dempsey: The Nonpareil

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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Hard one to rate. Seems to have been a level above Jim Hall, despite being a lot smaller. And I base that on the Fitz and McCarthy foghts, where he was near the end.

    Seems to have been pretty special.
     
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  3. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    The original Julio Cesar Chavez, great dominance streak. Sadly lost to the best name on his resume by far, Bob Fitzsimmons, so he's a hard one to rank (this loss was past prime). I have him in my P4P top 50, was considering dropping him for Abe Attell though
     
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  4. roughdiamond

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    I read he got tuberculosis, which is a damn shame.
     
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  5. roughdiamond

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    Bump
     
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  6. The Morlocks

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    A brand new book on him cones out this month. Look on Amazon.
     
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  7. roughdiamond

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    Way too expensive.
     
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  8. The Morlocks

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    They all are new.what other choice you have? Wait yrs? Don't have yrs but I got money. So I buy it. Bought these books in my avatar in the past 6 months.
     
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  9. roughdiamond

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    £43 for a paperback that has little review is not reasonable.
     
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  10. Seamus

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    Is that Sharkey book in the upper right? Thoughts?
     
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  11. Greb & Papke 707

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    I read somewhere that bob fitzsimmons was sad after they fought because jack was his hero, any truth to that?
     
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  12. roughdiamond

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    Far out in the wilds of Oregon
    On a lonely mountain side
    Where Columbia’s mighty waters
    Fell down to the ocean’s tide,
    Where the giant fir and cedar
    Are imaged in the wave
    O’ergrown with weeds and lichens,
    I found Jack Dempsey’s grave

    I found no marble monolith
    No broken shaft or stone
    To tell of the great triumphs
    This vanished hero won;
    No rose, no shamrock I could find,
    No mortals here to tell,
    How sleeps in this forsaken spot
    The immortal Nonpareil

    A wind rock-strewn canyon road,
    That mortals seldom tread,
    Leads up this lonely mountain
    To the bivouac of the dead.
    And the western sun was sinking
    In the Pacific’s golden waves
    And solemn pines kept watching
    O’er poor Jack Dempsey’s grave

    Forgotten by ten thousand throats
    That thundered his acclaim;
    Forgotten by his friends and foes
    Who cheered his very name
    Oblivion wraps his faded form
    But ages hence shall save
    The memory of that Irish lad
    That sleeps in Dempsey’s grave

    Oh! Fame, why sleeps thy favoured son
    In wilds, woods and weeds?
    And shall he ever thus sleep on
    Interred his valiant deeds?
    ‘Tis strange New York should thus forget
    Its “Bravest of the Brave”
    And in the wilds of Oregon
    Unmarked, leave Dempsey’s grave

    Val O’Grady
     
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  13. The Morlocks

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    Just got the Sharkey book Friday. Bought it from England because Amazon and Ebay in US cost $300.00. Got it there for 35 dollars. 17 dollars shipping. Been trying for yrs for it. Btw, screw others reviews. I decide what I like. These snobs like Flea and compton that think a book cant be encompassing in 300 pges are fools. Most great bios are in the 3-4 range. Books, not encyclopedia s.
     
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  14. louis54

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    very true.....dont know if your interested but some of amazons books can be more easily acquired by kindle and can be on your computer forever
     
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  15. Senya13

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    Dempsey's bio from the National Police Gazette, in several parts (Telegram splits the text, so this is only the beginning of the first part, install it to read the rest at https://t.me/senya13boxing ).
     
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