Jack Dempsey Training For George Carpentier

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    If you want a good laugh to see how master pugilists fight, just skip to 2:40 in the video.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQmVh1vX7mA&feature=feedu[/ame]


    Some interesting footage though. Training and promotional stuff. I didn't even know tennis existing back then, although I'm not sure if that qualifies. I think I could **** Dempsey up in tennis though. :D Handball is an old-school northern thing (They don't have it in the south). I've heard some legendary stories from my pops about that sport.

    Parts of the film seem so unimpressive that it puts Greb in better perspective. I just don't think people in the 1920's knew how to shadowbox. :lol:
     
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  2. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    P,great clip of Jack dempsey that I have never seen before. Dempsey was
    super fast in 1921 when he trained for the Carpentier fight. He was lean and mean those days. This super speed for a heavyweight,married with vicious
    punching power,along with a kill or be killed attitude,made this Dempsey
    a formidable fighting machine...Thanks Pp...:good
     
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  3. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    No problem Burt. Dempsey was definitely quick looking here for sure.
     
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  4. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The most difficult thing for a Dempsey to do was spar with lightweights like his 135 pound buddy,Joe Benjamin. Dempsey had to suppress his no holds barred punching style against small men when sparring. Like Babe Ruth practicing bunting in front of cameras. I would see top heavyweights at
    old Stillmans gym,made to look foolish sparring with faster small men,they were not allowed to hurt.
     
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  5. jaffay

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    Unique vid, I liked it a lot. Some interesting things there like Dempsey playing tennis, was this his normal training routine or just something for the camera?

    Another thing is running with that stick in both hands. I think it helps to keep fighters hands at his waist and elblows close to the body during the fight. Smart.
     
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  6. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wonder if this film is the one which was loosely stated as containing a sparring session between Greb and Dempsey by a 'ringwise' fight collector.
     
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  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  8. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    This footage is all on the unedited theatrical film of the actual Carpentier-Dempsey fight.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    http://espn.go.com/sportscentury/features/00016509.html
     
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  10. Jack Dempsey

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    That 2:40 bit had me laughing, like a trio of spackers let out from the funny farm
     
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  11. Ramon Rojo

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    Every fighter who fought before the year 1930 was a bum.
     
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  12. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We must remember that they [trio], are aware of the camera man traipsing
    about them with his hand-held camera. Not being experienced with this new
    fangled machine, Dempsey and his sparring mates had to do unatural mugging awkwardly. But Jack does come across as lean, taut and flexible
    for a heavyweight, mugging or no mugging. Great clip of him with his pug nose,before his later nose bob...
     
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  14. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So I take it you never heard of Bill Tilden?
     
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  15. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :good

    I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to tennis before the open era.

    Nope. Apparently he was famous like Ruth and Dempsey back then, but certainly not as well known as those guys today. Tennis seemed to look a lot different in that clip, so I was just being humorous about it.
     
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