Jack Dempsey v Joe Louis in their primes

I believe Dempsey's combination of mobility and speed are the difference here. Louis might manage to stun or drop him, but he was not an infallible finisher, as Galento proved by getting up to floor him. (Pastor also got up from multiple early knockdowns to give Joe trouble in their rematch.)

Dempsey could move, crowd, and keep low, a combination of tactics Joe didn't like dealing with. Godoy managed to get into the middle rounds in their second battle, and he had nothing like the upper body movement Dempsey had.

Contrary to what many expect, I think this would have gone the distance, with Jack taking the decision. In peak condition, both could take a tremendous punch. Power would not be the deciding factor here though.

My opinion in favor of Dempsey is not particularly strong however, and I doubt I'd place a wager on the outcome.

 

CHIN! Swarmers who fought out of a crouch,and who did it better than Dempsey? gave Louis trouble,add two fisted power ,better footwork,evasive head movement comparable handpseed ,better punch resistance ,Louis is technically the better fighter,but Dempsey overwhelmes him early,before he can get his jab in its groove ,thats my take on it,if it went past 6 Louis becomes the favourite.

 

Dempsey is going to be on the end of a lot of hard punches when coming in. I imagine that right uppercut/left hook which knocked one of his opponents senseless landing early on. Who will Dempsey react? He has barely been hit by hard hitting opponents in his career. Louis took punches from Max Baer, Buddy Baer, Galento, Simon, Carnera, Walcott, Marciano.... all big punchers while he suffered the odd knockdown, he was always up fast except for Marciano, by which point Dempsey was already retired for six years and he was basically reduced to a one-handed fighter.

Also contrary to most of Dempsey's opponents (except Tunney), Louis had a modern style of combination punching, patiently jabbing, etc. I think Louis dismantles Dempsey, whose stamina was not on par with Joe's either, inside 9 rounds.

 

Dempsey was quick to close the gap and Louis wasn't reknowned for being quick with his footwork. Dempsey would surprise a lot of people in this one.

 

If they just slug it out, Dempsey. However if Jack Blackburn could figure a strategy to slow down Dempsey, Louis could pull it out.

 

My father went fishing with jack sharkey, because my dad was good friends with Jack Sharkeys grandson. My father didnt want to bother Jack, but he did ask him one question.......My father asked who would win in a fight between Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey? Without Skipping a beat Jack Sharkey said "They both could kill ya with the left hooks" and he left it at that. Even though Sharkey did not answer my father's question, my father did not pester him further. My father told me they breifly talked one more time about boxing, how sharkey was telling them both a story about his boxing career, and sharkey mentioned how much Gene Tunney did not want to fight him, how he retired rather than give him a title shot.

 

In my own opinion Joe Louis defintley takes this one. No one in history can come into Joe Louis and survive, no one. Louis would make dogmeat out of Jack Dempsey with his combinations.

 

I defintley disagree here, dempsey cant possibly come into joe louis and survive. Louis has too much firepower and offensive arsenal.

 

I dont think Dempseys finishing abilities rate above mike tyson. Just imagine if guys like liston, marciano, tyson, were allowed to stand over his fallen opponents like jack dempsey. Moore would have never survived the 6th round, charles wouldnt have made it past the 2nd round in the rematch, buster douglas wouldnt have made it out of the 8th round, leotis martin gets knocked out in the 4th round. You think Wladimir Klitschko would have made it out of the 4th round vs Sam Peter if Peter had got to stand over him?

 

i dont agree with that rule, especially considering it was a 3 year inactive 32 year old far past his prime jack dempsey. Tunney certainly went nowhere near a 6'3 225lb 28 year old powerful george godfrey.

He chose a very soft title defense as his last against a fat C level tom heeney rather defend against jack sharkey and george godfrey, by far the two best contenders out there. Then gene tunney retired without giving either godfrey or sharkey a shot.

 

Dempsey's fast start, smooth delivery and variety spells big trouble for the slowly adjusting Louis.

Wham, bam, thank you mam - Dempsey starts and finishes things early.

 

I am sure Louis would be adjusted just fine at the opening bell.

He would take Dempsey a lot more seriously than Arturo Godoy.

 

Prepared, yes, but whether or not he could adjust is an unknown.

Dempsey projects a new box of tools in a style that is designed to de-rail louis' mold of fighting.

 

Ray Arcel said that Dempsey didnt have any weakneses.

For my mind he had just one.

If he got caught flush he was often going in the wrong direction when it happened.

Louis would know how to exploit that particular weakness and if he did it would be bad for Dempsey.

 

Good fight i think Louis might get dropped early but his greater technique and firepower win him the day. Dempsey would be in the danger zone to be effective but i dont think you can go to louis and win.