Jack dempsey vs david haye

I can see how this could be a debate...

I saw Haye look like the second coming of Ali when he clowned Ruiz, admittedly washed up, but still viable.... That was truly impressive.

Dempsey is a savage, frankly, and Haye has shown himself to be very bitchly about heavy exchanges and getting into the trenches, which is exactly where he'd be (involuntarily) with Dempsey.

 

Mediocre smaller boxer (Carpentier) staggered Dempsey. Wild, unskilled brawler (Firpo) almost knocked him out. Then there's the Flynn bout. I'd think Haye has a very good chance.

 

I think Haye would win. Languishing outside of range, causing Dempsey to cut him off, then exploding and smashing Dempsey.

Both are pretty wild finishers, but judging by the footage I'd give Haye the speed edge. Dempsey more offensively versatile, but Haye's right hand is probably the fastest punch either possesses, and Haye is a solid 210lb fighter.

Dempsey has a punchers chance, but I'd take Haye, who also has a good Mayweather-esque jab to the body, the edge here.

 

Ironicaly this was the fight that convinced me that he was nothing special.

If you watch the later rounds he gassed, and was in no small difficulty.

 

Haye looked good in spots against Ruiz, moreso in the early going. He was gassing, and hit with consistency by Ruiz's jab. An old Ruiz who was alomst 10 years past his clutching prime.

Haye, along with Amir Khan, might be the most overrated fighter in recent years. His "skills" are terribly overrated. He's fast and his very good power with that right hand. His combos suck, he gets all spazzed out and throws 4-5 straight rabbit punches as a "combo" rather than an actual combination that has fluidity and real purpose (creating/exploiting openings).

When he concentrates and shows good defense (Wladimir fight), it comes at a huge expense of his offense.

His chin and stamina are shaky.

Dempsey was a more "modern" heavyweight in terms of style. The 30s and 40s is when boxing had more of an evolution overall, but even before that, Dempsey's style evolved from the more "primitive" styles of prior HW champs. Dempsey loses to the great HWs who followed him, and many HWs who were not great but merely "good", but Haye is miles from great and not even a very good fighter on the world class HW level (even his cruiserweight reign is overrated).

He won a belt by beating one of the worst HW titlists ever. An 80 year old Evander Holyfield did better against Nicolay Valuev than Haye did.

 

demps stops haye early.

 

Dempsey should be favourite but if Hayes lands he can stop him.

Haye is the epitome of style over substance and he looks absolutely amazing in some of his fights. I have no issue calling him the number 2 cw behind Holy.

If Dempsey bores in for a quick KO he will get countered and stopped. If Dempsey jabs from range, rolls his way in and fights smart he should outlast Haye.

 

Haye had only a 1" wingspan advantage, & Willard had fought a few rounds in 3 1/2 years, not zero in 4.

Dempsey would never jab from range. With his reflexes & power Haye has a shot, but I do not think he would be skilled & elusive enough.

 

Dempsey beats the **** out of Haye.

 

What has happened to some threads on ESB? Years ago when I joined
The threads would match Jack Dempsey with a Joe Louis, or an Ali, or
a Tyson ect, in a who would win fantasy match ?. Today Jack Dempsey
who at his best was considered one of the 5 greatest heavyweights of
all time by seasoned boxing experts for his speed, toughness and vicious punching is matched with a David Haye, a Butterbean, and rumor has it soon with Lady GaGa...Well ru, at least you have maintained a sense of
sanity...:hi:

 

I feel your pain!