Jack dempsey vs david haye

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I do not think that Dempsey was particularly skilful in his manipulation of the media, in the same way that Haye was. I think that he just captured the popular imagination in the same way that a young Mike Tyson did, and the media just did the rest.

    I would say that in Dempsey’s case, at least, there was something substantial behind the hype. He had destroyed some pretty serviceable fighters, in a way that nobody had expected to see them destroyed.
     
  2. Mango

    Mango New Member Full Member

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    Does this mean, that you believe BoxRec's points-system - as a means to rank boxers across the eras - should be seen as having some sort of credibility?
     
  3. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    It's the same as any point scoring analysis from basketball to cricket point sheets are used by teams to determine the best player in the league.
     
  4. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on. They knock Marciano for not having fought big Heavyweights then slate Louis for the big 'oafs' he beat!
     
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  5. Mango

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    Ok, let me ask you again then: Do you think BoxRec's all-time rankings, based solely on a complicated points system, can claim any kind of credibility?
     
  6. Its really tough to compare because you don't see Dempsey fight anyone with a modern boxing mover style. I think one thing that might give Dempsey a win is that he chose his spots carefully and haye can seem hesitant and scared at some times. But logically the only way I see Dempsey winning is either storming haye in the first round or catching up to him in the late rounds and that's if Dempsey can take his punch coz hes GONNA get hit with that right hand no question. Id go with haye just coz hes miles the better boxer but this is really a hard one to compare coz Dempsey was miles the better fighter
     
  7. HerolGee

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    yes, Dempsey was more a product being used to sell and promote, haye is a self promoter.
     
  8. Bummy Davis

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    I agree
     
  9. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    A jab is a jab there is nothing new in boxing! 100 years ago There was just as much emphasis on the jab as there's today. RT
     
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  11. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Jack.
     
  12. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "I couldn't push off on it."
     
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  13. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye in 1 round
     
  14. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only if he clones himself and they both go at Haye at once.