Dempsey had better defence than Tyson? lol, has somebody hacked your account? Dempsey was a hands down -flailer. The elusive defensive art of boxing barely even existed back then. In the 80's Tyson was a very good inside fighter. You chose the plodding, 1 shot hitman of the mid 90's as an example and Holyfield handled him by fighting a very dirty foul ridden fight. Dempsey wouldn't last more than two rounds coming in on an 80's , prime Mike Tyson, and walking onto him is exactly what Jack would do. There's a reason why big , durable guys fought on the backfoot and held on for deal life , they knew if they didn't, it was game over.
Tyson would easily outbox crude Dempsey. Early KO too. Mismatch. Different eras. Dempsey is from the ancient classic era that lacked modern day skill, speed and overlal development.
I think Dempsey come out slugging Tyson in the nuts so hard one would be haemorrhaging out the anus, the other would be lodged up in the liver. That would set Tyson up nicely for a rabbit punch with a concealed lead pipe, cracking the back of Tyson's skull and making him blow brains out of his nose. Of course, 'Doc' Kearns would have 'fixed' the referee, and that would be that. Ride out of town with the gold stashed in the socks. Hobo f*cking jungle.
I was just watching the Carpentier fight and I have come to the conclusion that there is no way Demspey beats Tyson. Their styles are too similar, but Tyson was more defensively responsible with the peekaboo crouch alone. Combine that with Tyson's unarguably greater power, speed, and size and it's a whitewash
Size and speed are obviously unarguably in Tyson's favor. We're talking a lean 225 to a fairly soft 188, not even close. I'm going to have to say Power was in Tyson's favor simply because it took rounds for Dempsey to KO significantly smaller men, as oppose to the giants Tyson KO'd, that's simply unarguable also. The only thing that can be argued is "technique"... Apparently boxing is the only sport in the world where technique didn't peak in the 80's lmao... So lets go ahead and say Dempsey had superior technique to Tyson, so what? There's no way he can land a clean enough shot on Tyson, who had a great chin, to end the fight. I really can't see the argument
True, but in regard to Tyson, what would you say he qualifies more as, a giant or a small defensive specialist at least in this context? The only thing I could say about that is that I've seen the Willard fight, and I couldn't imagine the amount of damage Tyson would have done to Willard under similar circumstances... Most of the guys that survived Tyson's power did so by holding, not to mention the neutral corner rule and all that. And how do you think Willard would have held up against the Tucker's and Smith's of Tyson's era comparitively? However, kudos on the historical knowledge there. Tyson has trouble fighting on the inside when he's being hugged to death. A significantly smaller guy like Dempsey couldn't possibly hold Tyson with the same vigor that anyone else who managed to survive Tyson's wrath on the inside has. Like, I know Holyfield keeps getting referred to as a smaller fighter, but lets be serious... What was the size difference between the 2? At least Holyfield weighed well over 200lbs Full credit goes to you, sir.
Dempsey fought off the front foot a stance used by almost all modern fighters according to Kenny Weldon, not to mention his drop jab is now used by Cotto. The trigger step job would've pushed Tyson back don't forget Dempsey used to throw that heavyweight bag around like it was a speed bag Tyson for one won the championship belt at 200 Evander Holyfield started out of 168 pounds and in Dempsey's day steroids were not advanced liked it is today I think it's safe to assume that Dempsey was a far harder puncher that Evander Holyfield. He came in with the head to like Holyfield and was faster on the feet than Holyfield. Dempsey had a hell of a chin with huge hands. His aggressive style would have propelled Tyson against the ropes Tyson was not trained to fight on the ropes. Tyson would've had a hard time throwing body shots to Dempsey's crouch some say that Jack Dempsey winged his punches but in actuality Dempsey was against winging punches because he said it would wind up in the clinch to the contrary Dempsey through hard long punches to the body. Tyson was not trained to defend against body shots rather he was trained to defend against shots to the head Dempsey was trained to go to the body at the same time coming with the head. Yeah people are going to say that Dempsey was a modern cruiserweight but it's doubtful to Dempsey ever did steroids whether people like Holyfield were known steroid users don't forget David haye started out as a cruiserweight champion. Roy Jones Junior started out as a middleweight champion as did James Toney actually they were even smaller than Dempsey. James Tony wasn't as quick on the feet as Dempsey yet a lot of people believe that James Tony would have beat iron Mike. You remember that Dwight Braxton who stood 5'5" tall almost beat Evander Holyfield at the age of 33. Yeah Dempsey was the size of Holyfield and a far bigger hitter. I don't know why but it's evident that there are a lot it Dempsey haters here remember according to some researchers and websites Dempsey was the greatest heavyweight about time. Evander Holyfield who beat Mike Tyson has never been even mentioned in the greatest of all fighters.