Jack Dempsey vs Jersey Joe Walcott Prime for Prime

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by SonnyListonsJab, Jun 13, 2011.


  1. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    Joe Louis was not washed up in 1946-48...he was reigning heavyweight champion of the world and knocking out top contenders!
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    Ok. you have not done enough research
     
  2. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    Perhaps, but with lack of video and really not enough information on the man, it's hard to form a solid opinion. I have the utmost respect for Greb but there just isn't enough out there to say that he would beat somebody like Jack Dempsey.

    Feel free to shed some light on the situation, as you are right, I truly do not know enough about Greb.
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Joe Louis, by his own admittance, was past his best after WW2. He said his KO of Tami M was the last time he felt like his own self ... he was on his way out v.s. Walcott ..
     
  4. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im just trying to give you a heads up. If you come in here and don't know all the facts.....there is someone in here that does, that can prove it and that will call you out on it. Take it however you want my man, but I promise you will see it happen here, and often.
     
  5. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    :lol: at suzie bigging up a post WWII Louis as if he was better than Dempsey ever was.
     
  6. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    Thank you. I can not even believe what I am reading, and then JAB's comments backing it up... I can't even believe that this debate is happening. I love Joe Louis but when you're past it, you're past it.
     
  7. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    JAB I do not claim to know all the facts about everything, but I do know the career of Jack Dempsey, and I would hope you would at least know that much about me. What I know of Jack Dempsey, and what that person had stated about him are very contrasting ideas, so obviously I am going to disagree and in this case I AM DOING the calling out, and I can back up my arguments from many sources who were there at the time and it is documented.
     
  8. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you want to gain favor here you're going to have to do it on your own merits, not by trying to undermine me with something I never said, nor "backed" up. Thats what your buddy quarry tried doing and it got him labled as a troll shortly after.
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know you tend to ignore factual points about Dempseys career when you have no answer for it.

    Im not trying to be a dick, but I'd like for you to look at things with an open mind. You're such a big fan of the man that I think you lose track of the facts.
     
  10. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    I am not trying to gain favor, I am trying to grasp what you are trying to accomplish with what you are saying, because it is going over my head. I can see here that you are trying to link me to Quarry on this forum in an attempt to give me a bad reputation by guilt through association. Is it accurate to say that?

    And what facts do I ignore? You still have not told me, all you have said is that he ducked Wills and Greb. It is you who chooses to ignore the loads of evidence through film and sports writers who watched Dempsey. There is their opinion, and then there is yours.
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Does someone want to define, say 2 years, that was in fact Jersey Joe's prime?
     
  12. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    He threw one of the best 6 punch combinations of his career against Jersey Joe Walcott...Louis was still very dangerous in 1947.
     
  13. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    1947-1952 :good

    Top Performances

    Joe Louis I 1947
    Ezzard Charles III 1951
    Rocky Marciano I 1952
     
  14. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    Joe Louis kept himself sharp with exhibitions during the war years...he may have been past his best by 1946, just like Ali in the early 70s...but both were still great fighters while past their prime. Not many heavyweights in history could beat even a 1947 Joe Louis.

    1947 Joe Louis at a ripped 6'2 213lb would have knocked out Jack Dempsey.
     
  15. Swarmer

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    downright hilarious