Jack Dempsey vs Jersey Joe Walcott Prime for Prime

Jess Willard was better than Hein Ten Hoff.
Even a rusty old Jess Willard was better than Hein Ten Hoff.
Willard was a big brute of a man, strong as an ox and extremely durable, and had a good left jab and straight right and uppercut right.
He didn't move around much because he owned the centre of the ring.
Willard wasn't great but he was a good champion.
He outboxed some decent fighters.

Fred Fulton was known for his fast stinging left jab and was quite fast on his feet. if you prefer him. But he didn't last long against Dempsey, about 20 seconds. I prefer Willard.

 

It's all styles ... Fulton was a Wlad , Willard a Vitali ....

Dempsey was a killer with a terrific skill set but I never saw him fight let alone beat a boxer with Walcott's skill set excluding Tunney who was possibly better than Joe but not the hitter ... If Sharkey hit like Walcott ( which he did not) he would have iced Dempsey in Yankee Stadium that night .. that's for sure ...

 

Of course he was.

 

Maybe so. And the Jack Sharkey of Dempsey ,1927 would have whipped the Ali of Jimmy Young,Leon Spinks, Larry holmes vintage.
Let's be real he, we are talking about the primes of Dempsey and Walcott.
The 25 year old Jack Sharkey of the Dempsey affair was a helluva all-around fighter then. When his mental attitude was focused he would i believe, outsped Joe Walcott ,who had bad moments also visa Abe Simon.

 

Dempsey was a very explosive and heavy handed puncher and Walcott could be taken out by big punches, as shown by Abe Simon, Ezzard Charles, Joe Louis, and Rocky Marciano, not to mention Tiger Jack Fox and Al Ettore. Therefore, I see Dempsey nailing him with the big one at some point and taking him out.

 

Ray Robinson has a greater resume and was the greater fighter. your only knowledge of the sport of boxing are the 2 books you have read of Greb & Langford because other than those two fighters you HATE on every other all time great including Ray Robinson.

 

Jersey Joe could beat any fighter in history on his best day.

 

Q, when a statement as yours saying that Ray Robinson, who was the greatest fighter I ever saw ringside, nevertheless, has a greater resume than Harry Greb, i must intervene... Robinson was the greatest all around fighter who EVER lived, but Harry Greb was the GREATER fighter, with a record
unsurpassed in history.
Here is why: Ray Robinson always taller than his opposition ,never ventured out of his middleweight division [160 pounds]or more except one time as we all know, when he finally took on the LIGHT punching Joey Maxim in 1952, and failed to finish the fight,losing in the 14th rd. I recall those days,when there was talk about Robby testing himself against Archie Moore, amongst
other light heavies, but Robinson chose Maxim who did not hit as hard as some middleweights. Robinson KNEW his limitations against stronger punchers of the light heavyweights. He was very wise...
Harry Greb on the other hand was utterly fearless and secure in his skills, that
he took on any light heavyweight or heavyweight, that had the AUDACITY to step in the ring with "this seven year itch ",as he was described.
Greb fought and beat such great BIGGER men as Gene Tunney, Tommy Gibbons, Tommy Loughran, Jack Dillon, Battling Levinsky, Billy Miske, Gunboat Smith, Maxie Rosenbloom, Big Bill Brennan [many times],Kid Norfolk
a feared LH 15 pounds heavier,than he, and when Greb was on the slide,
lambasted the young powerful Mickey Walker,one year before Greb retired,
and passed away. Q , look at this resume of the 5ft8" Harry Greb, and tell me that Ray Robinson had a better resume than Harry Greb, who incidentally
fought the last 100 or so bouts BLIND in ONE EYE !
I look at this question of who was greater this way. Being that we can never match opponents of different era's, I go by this criteria----
I am convinced that the 160 pound Harry Greb at his best would have licked EVERY one of Ray Robinson's opponents. Hand's down !
I am equally certain that the middleweight Ray Robinson, would never tackle ,
let alone beat any of Greb's HOF Light heavyweight ,or heavyweight opponents..Ray Robinson, great as he WAS, knew his limitations, whilst
the great Harry Greb had no limitations,as his amazing career proved. Cheers.

 

Walcott was nowhere near his prime when he fought Simon. He took the fight on late notice, and didn't even train for the fight...He wouldn't even meet up with Bocchichio until 5 years later. Even still, Walcott still won the first 5 rounds vs the high rated Simon before Walcott's condition gave out. It was lack of condition, not punches, which knocked walcott out.

 

Have you seen the fight ?
Or could you share a first-hand report of that fight with us ?

 

Look troll, I don't hate Robinson at all. But Greb has the better resume and beat the better fighters. Robby never beat anyone as good as prime Tunney and he never had the heavyweight champion ducking him. Ged was smaller than Robinson and still able to beat the best light heavyweight and heavies. Crawl back in your hole now.

 

Who's Ged ?

 

Good question!

 

you have it wrong again your the Troll, also several points you make are also wrong. Robinson was the smaller man having been champion at 147lb. Greb never beat a "Prime" Tunney, he beat Tunney before Tunney reached his prime. Greb was not ducked by Jack Dempsey no matter how loud you try to trumpet it, Robinsons resume is as good if not better than Greb's resume with Robinson at one stage of his career being 129-1..Your claiming Gene Tunney to be a great champion yet only 3 weeks ago you started a thread to trash the guy claiming him to be unworthy of his lofty position. so once again Double Standards from you or was it just your usual TROLLING... Ray Robinson is universally recognised as the greatest fighter who ever lived and no matter how much that grates and grinds on you, for you to claim Harry Greb holds that position is simply not true and you know it.