Jack Dempsey vs JIMMY YOUNG!!!!!

right. He was trying to box and pace himself which was stupid. If Foreman had the physical ability of the 70s conbined with the smartness and improved defense of the 90s then id say hed be a top 3 guy.

 

Very good points. Foreman's defense in the 90's was a huge make over from what he had in the 70's, and so was his attitude and maturity levels. He learned to fight calmly and not let his emotions run the game. He also conserved his energy over a period of rounds. Although I don't think that a 90's Foreman was necessarily better in every way than a 70's version, he certainly improved in many aspects.

 

Just like he did against Ali?


Come on, his flaws (bad defense, susceptible to rangy, speedy fighter that doesn't come at him) were always there. It's just that Frazier and Norton had no tools to use them. Well, Norton did but his chin shortcut his succes.

Young was a guy with movement, hard to hit, tough chin and great ring savvy. I don't think the '74 Foreman would've overpowered him, in fact he might have punched himself out, after all, he was down in the 12th in 1977. If you think '74 Foreman beats him, fair enough, but i disagree.

 

I think Young would have always had Foreman's number. That's just a bad matchup for big George. I really think George would have been too smart to take a rematch with Young, even in his latter day career. Jimmy Young was a bit like a heavyweight version of Wilfred Benitez, in that not only did he have a great defensive prowess like Wilfred, but he also had it together for a relatively short amount of time and became ordinary. Both men at their best, I'd always bet on Young by a decision.

 

he did hit Ali several times with very hard shots, you think Young could take that kind of punishment?

 

Foreman had trouble with Young and a younger version would also, there were 2 kinds of fighters who had a chance vs Foreman a boxer who could take 7 rounds of punishment and still be there to dish it out and a guy that could punch and get inside George wide swings and test his Jaw more than once with out getting caught by one of Georges wide swinging bombs. It happened to be Ali and Young that exposed him but a tough chinned slugger (like a Quarry Type or better) or a pinpoint puncher with power may have exposed him also IF there were any around who he would face. Lyle almost did it to him and Lyle was not known to be overly durable or to be an exceptional puncher

 

Could he? Sure. Would he? Hard to say.

However, he will not likely take as much punishement as Ali did. Ali layed on the ropes mostly. Young will move around like he did in '77. He had a good chin for sure, he survived Lyle, Norton, '77 Foreman (power doesn't leave you after you've been beaten), and Shavers once, although he got knocked out when he had 10 fights or so.

Agreed, a guy like Walcott with tricky footwork and accurate punching would give Foreman heaps of trouble. Walcott also had a pretty good chin and faced a lot more punchers than usually given credit for (Simon, Louis 2x, Marciano, Murray, Gomez, Ray 2x, Ten Hoff, Layne). He was a bit erratic however. Guys like Tyson and Louis could beat Foreman to the punch and finish what Lyle started with superior technique and power. A guy like Lewis could choose to box or punch. Foreman has a good chance against all of them however, because of his big punching power.

 

A prime Dempsey destroys Jimmy Young.
Young doesnt do well against a pressure fighter.
Young also got beat by several 190 pounders.

 

Could you name those several 190 pounders that beat Young, Rodney?

 

Jack would take a real close one over Jimmy 8-7 roundwise.

 

Young makes Dempsey look wild for a few rounds but Dempsey catches him with a combination and proceeds to do the vicious mauling that was his style

Dempsey by stoppage mid rounds.

 

Dempsey by clear decision ..

 

Pat Cuillo 188 lbs beat the hell out of Young.