Hard for me to imagine Louis getting blown out early. The guy could be temporarily hurt or stunned but he was never ever in trouble like Dempsey was against Firpo/Flynn early in the fight. Putting money down for this fight wouldn't be smart but I'd go with Louis. The more movement and angles Dempsey gives Joe the better his chances are. Wading straight in which for some reason people think Louis is vulnerable to would be the end for him.
Dempsey KO 1 wasnt a totally out of the question according to several who saw them both in action. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...ight jim corbett round by round&searchLimits=
Unforgiven, this is just the most extreme form of nuthugging. Dempsey gets sparked out. And to you, reality is not even a possible option. It can only possibly be either a fixed fight or he was sick and injured. To quote you. Jack Dempsey himself claims it was legit. This is just further proof that Dempsey's legacy is mythologised
Dempsey himself claimed he was injured and untrained, broke his hand working in a bowling alley and couldn't train or defend himself. That was one of his versions anyway. Others say he was hard up for cash and took $300 dollars to go down. Joe Williams wrote an article about it, Dempsey'd former wife testified in court that he'd taken a dive. Of course Dempsey'd not going to say he took a dive. Personally, of course I don't know. I just have my opinions. It's a strange result. What do you base your judgment on ? You seem to know Dempsey was sparked out (presumably, because he's ****, right ?) ..... but you talk about it as if you've actually seen the fight.
Louis proved himself against far superior competition than Jack Dempsey. Dempsey has major question marks in his career, Louis does not.
I gotta disagree my man. Dempsey has his flaws as have been pointed out over the last several weeks, but he was a helluva fighter and would have been better than anyone Joe faced in his prime.
Joe Louis was also far superior to anyone Jack faced in his CAREER. Dempsey had nice skills and footwork, but Dempsey would get wild while on the attack(just like he always did), the low hands would come, and Louis would patiently wait...then bombard him with blazing fast 5-6 punch combinations down the pipe and dempsey would fall...and that would be it. Dempsey would also have to pay the price to coming inside by taking Louis' tremendous jab, a jab Dempsey never seen in his career until Tunney dominated him with it for 20 rounds. Dempsey looks great on film, against certain fighters. Then you put him in with Class A fighters Sharkey and Tunney...and all of a sudden he doesn't look so earthly shattering. Granted, he was past his prime but you get the point. In Dempsey's prime, he never faced that really big threat to him, that A level fighter like Harry Wills he needed to prove his skills and power against.
Louis was down against Schmeling x2,Galento,Braddock,B Baer,Walcott x3,I'll leave out Marciano. I think it's entirely reasonable that Dempsey gets Louis out of there, and early. Of course the converse is true too.:think
It's not even close really..... Marciano > Anyone Dempsey faced Charles - Tunney: Let's call it a wash Walcott > Sharkey Conn > aging Gibbons Schmeling > Miske M Baer > Brennan Carnera > 37 year old Willard B Baer > Morris Braddock > Carpentier Pastor > Levinsky Galento-Firpo: We will call it a wash Then you got Mauriello, Uzcuden, Simon, half blind JH Lewis, Mann, Nova, Godoy, Farrr, Ettore, Dorazio, Poreda, Ramage, Perroni, Brion, Savold, Retzlaff, McCoy, aging Bivins, Old Sharkey easily over aging Gunboat Smith, Old Flynn, Porky Flynn, Devere, Meehan, Pelkey, Anderson, Kellar, Bonds, Darcy
Im not talking about the competition each faced, but the fighters themselves. Both Louis and Dempsey would be the best fighters either had faced had they the opportunity to fight.
In there primes, yes. I happen to think Marciano is at least on the same level as Dempsey as a fighter, puncher, and finisher....and Louis fought the very best version of Rocky Marciano.
