Jack Dempsey's Punching Ability Compared to todays heavyweights

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Jack Dempsey's Punching Ability Compared to todays heavyweights

  1. Waaaaay below average. Couldn't even compare.

  2. Below Average

  3. Average

  4. Above Average

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey's Punching Ability Compared to todays heavyweights
     
  2. robert ungurean

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    Above average.
    Dempsey is a top 5 Heavyweight in my book.
     
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  3. Seamus

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    Average..

    Dempsei is a top 50 heavyweight in my book.
     
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  4. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Brutal puncher. Certainly one of boxing hardest punchers ever. No one questions Joe Louis punching power. The only man who fought both Dempsey and Louis stated Dempsey punched harder than Louis. He further stated....." When Dempsey hit you in your shoulder he broke your shoulder. When he hit you to the body it felt like his fist came out your back. When he hit you on your hip he dislocated your hip." Fleischer who watched both Dempsey and Louis live from ringside also felt Dempsey hit harder.
     
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  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He'd have ko'd wlad of the Joshua fight in less than 5 rounds.. Very confident of that.
     
  6. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is really hard to make this comparison because outside of Fulton and Willard he wasn't in an era of superheavies and Firpo is average to small today.

    I will assume that Willard had an above average chin and Firpo a good chin Fulton maybe not but from the Willard fight having seen him at 187+- unload his best shots on a huge man and seeing Willard moved and hurt like that tells me his power was top tier. His fight with Firpo tells me the same a motivated hurt Dempsey and his survival instinct against a big man he had the power to put his lights out early as well.
     
  7. Seamus

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    I think the Mormeck fight would be closer to the result.
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Devotee of the Little Red Book Full Member

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    Willard had gone ten listless rounds in 4 years, was 37 years old and... just wasn't that good to begin with. Calling his defense porous would be very flattering. Anyone with his guard and his glacial reflexes would be a sitting duck for a honed pro of Dempsey's abilities.
     
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  9. Absolutely!

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    How well does Kovalev's power stack up at heavyweight? What about Beterbiev? What about Kudryashov? Or Gassiev?
     
  10. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't disagree with him not being at his best but I disagree with him being as bad as he is painted, he was not a shopworn fighter with alot of fights he was a late starter with only a few fights so being ringworn is out of the question IMO and being washed up is not provable but if you tell me he was not taking Dempsey serious I agree completely his conditioning shows he thought he wasn't big enough to worry about but that isn't the question the question is Dempsey's power and from what I have seen and read Willard's chin was a cut above and sturdy and he was a a super heavyweight even by today's standard and that is all I can rate his power off of his size and the bigger modern sized men he fought.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    On par with the best today. Dempsey could hit. The thing is the lighter gloves increased his power a bit, and the no corner rule for knockdowns really allowed Dempsey to jump on his injured opponents.

    So his power would be a tad less today ( unless you argue modern supplements ) and his floored opponents would have more time to recover.
     
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  12. mcvey

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    There was a corner rule.Dempsey just ignored it.
     
  13. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    To Dempsey fans.

    Honestly ask yourself how hard Artur Beterbiev punches at heavyweight. That'll put this ridiculous question into some kind of meaningful perspective.
     
  14. Legend X

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    I don't know much about those fighters.

    How do you rate Tyson Fury's power ?
     
  15. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Dempsey had over 100 fights starting from age 15 or 16. He fought under the name Kid Blackie and they were all fought in mining towns of the west. They weren't anything notable but it should be noted that he didn't start professionally at 19.